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60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 10:05 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Good morning.
No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.
Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.
I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.
The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.
Enjoy.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 10:19 am
by BrummerStealsHome
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 10:05 am
Good morning.
No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.
Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.
I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.
The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.
Enjoy.
I think the defensive prowess the team has displayed is real and will continue. I think our offense is middle of the road to slightly above middle-of-the-road and will regress towards the mean. Our pitching is inconsistent and will change either by pitchers settling into the rhythm of the season or pitchers having their roles adjusted or getting replaced by someone else. The outcomes won't be much different overall.
This will still be a fun team to watch, frustrating at times but showing enough quality and enough promise to keep this fan engaged. I'll stick with my earlier prediction of an 86 win season. And unlike most years when a wildcard is a disappointment, sneaking in to the
playoffs playins would be a good achievement.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 10:21 am
by sikeston bulldog2
BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 10:19 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 10:05 am
Good morning.
No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.
Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.
I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.
The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.
Enjoy.
I think the defensive prowess the team has displayed is real and will continue. I think our offense is middle of the road to slightly above middle-of-the-road and will regress towards the mean. Our pitching is inconsistent and will change either by pitchers settling into the rhythm of the season or pitchers having their roles adjusted or getting replaced by someone else. The outcomes won't be much different overall.
This will still be a fun team to watch, frustrating at times but showing enough quality and enough promise to keep this fan engaged. I'll stick with my earlier prediction of an 86 win season. And unlike most years when a wildcard is a disappointment, sneaking in to the
playoffs playins would be a good achievement.
Good write. I went 81-81. I think that’s a cat bird position.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 10:56 am
by rbirules
Hitting: 106 wRC+ is 10th best in MLB (6% above average).
Defense: 12th in DRS, 1st in OAA
Base running: 21st in BsR
Position players: tied for 7th in fWAR with Boston
Rotation: 13th in fWAR
Bullpen: 16th in fWAR
Pitchers: tied for 13th in fWAR with Boston
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 11:04 am
by sikeston bulldog2
rbirules wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 10:56 am
Hitting: 106 wRC+ is 10th best in MLB (6% above average).
Defense: 12th in DRS, 1st in OAA
Base running: 21st in BsR
Position players: tied for 7th in fWAR with Boston
Rotation: 13th in fWAR
Bullpen: 16th in fWAR
Pitchers: tied for 13th in fWAR with Boston
That’s about 12th best team in baseball stats. This stretch we are currently on will be interesting.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 11:07 am
by rockondlouie
*Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game
3.80 Starter ERA 15th in MLB
*Defense- one of leagues best
#1 in OAA
*Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera
9th in Runs
3rd in BA
10th in OPS
11th SLG% (But sorely lacking HR power ranking 24th)
*Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
4.12 ERA #20th in MLB (inflated by relievers who had no business being in St. Louis)
BTW
Maton has become the go-to 8th inning guy and he's been VG (since 4/25: 11 G/1.74 ERA).
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 11:09 am
by sikeston bulldog2
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 11:07 am
*Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game
3.80 Starter ERA 15th in MLB
*Defense- one of leagues best
#1 in OAA
*Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera
9th in Runs
3rd in BA
10th in OPS
11th SLG% (But sorely lacking HR power ranking 24th)
*Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
4.12 ERA #20th in MLB (inflated by relievers who had no business being in St. Louis)
BTW
Maton has become the go-to 8th inning guy and he's been VG (since 4/25: 11 G/1.74 ERA).
Question. If Helsley was to get moved, does Maton get the closer role.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 11:11 am
by Futuregm2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 11:09 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 11:07 am
*Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game
3.80 Starter ERA 15th in MLB
*Defense- one of leagues best
#1 in OAA
*Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera
9th in Runs
3rd in BA
10th in OPS
11th SLG% (But sorely lacking HR power ranking 24th)
*Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
4.12 ERA #20th in MLB (inflated by relievers who had no business being in St. Louis)
BTW
Maton has become the go-to 8th inning guy and he's been VG (since 4/25: 11 G/1.74 ERA).
Question. If Helsley was to get moved, does Maton get the closer role.
From the current roster, probably. But if they are moving Helsley I wouldn’t be surprised if they’d look at dealing Maton, too. He’s a FA after this year as well.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 11:18 am
by rockondlouie
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 11:09 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 11:07 am
*Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game
3.80 Starter ERA 15th in MLB
*Defense- one of leagues best
#1 in OAA
*Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera
9th in Runs
3rd in BA
10th in OPS
11th SLG% (But sorely lacking HR power ranking 24th)
*Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
4.12 ERA #20th in MLB (inflated by relievers who had no business being in St. Louis)
BTW
Maton has become the go-to 8th inning guy and he's been VG (since 4/25: 11 G/1.74 ERA).
Question. If Helsley was to get moved, does Maton get the closer role.
More than likely Oli would go w/a Closer by Committee since he'd be left w/no true closer.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 14:24 pm
by sikeston bulldog2
Allows me to reemphasis. Middle road offense can’t carry the staff.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 15:43 pm
by sikeston bulldog2
61 Games. Seven over. Come from behind DH opener win.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 17:05 pm
by hmoss859
Margin of error is small for this team.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 20:25 pm
by AZ_Cardsfan
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 10:05 am
Good morning.
No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.
Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.
I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.
The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.
Enjoy.
I like a lot of that. Where we part is the "seeing a power in a year or two". Reason is to be a power a team needs a true elite hitter and something resembling an ace. Cards have neither and I'm not sure there is one in the system on the way. Would love to be wrong about that but that's my take.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 20:39 pm
by Horseradish
hmoss859 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 17:05 pm
Margin of error is small for this team.
Very true, but at least they’re showing some fight compared to the last few seasons, already a few comebacks and late-inning runs.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 05 Jun 2025 23:42 pm
by Detroit Louie
This has been an exciting team to watch develop this season, culminating in the May run. This is a rough stretch, and they should come back down somewhat.
I would be happy to see them sellers at the deadline this year. So if they are several games out of the last wildcard spot in mid-July, that would make selling acceptable. We need to trade for some new high level prospects coming in or at least some young guys with high ceilings. Hoping Bloom will be able to identify some diamonds in the rough.
Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.
Posted: 06 Jun 2025 11:50 am
by Youboughtit
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025 10:05 am
Good morning.
No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.
Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.
Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.
I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.
The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.
Enjoy.
Where do they get the superstar power bat and TOR ace to reach the next level? Spending is the only answer