Herrera is not a major league catcher

[hdhntr148]

so where else could he play? guys are 10 for 10 against him stealing in is limited time and most arn't even close. That will cost them games. Need to find another position but where? He runs well enough to play LF but doesn't have the instincts there. It's like Walker who when running to his right or left is greatly improved but on sinking line drives or over his head doesn't make quick enough adjustments. Only time and experience teaches that.

Herrera is way too valuable a hitter to have him play the most physically taxing position on field. Plus his history of injuries? uh NO, need his bat in middle of lineup. Perhaps he could be taught first base and move WC behind plate tho he was less than average as a thrower there as well.

With all the moving parts on this team hopefully Mormol and mgt will figure out what works and what doesn't.

Have been truly amazed at the resilience of this team and how they just refuse to give up when behind and keep grinding out AB's. Solid starting pitching that's not blowing anyone away which the baseball pundits have decided is the only way to pitch. Dunc used to teach pitch to contact which was kinda successful for a long time on his teams. That's what STL starting pitchers do combined with best D in MLB kinda is a winning formulae.

[hdhntr148]

BTW 65 out of 69 in Herrera's time in majors. That says your NOT a MLB catcher PERIOD.

[rbirules]

Need to find another position but where?

DH.

Would be great if Contreras could still catch 40-50% of the games, play 1B 40-50% of the time and DH the rest while Herrera is the primary DH, plays 1B 10-20% of the time and is the emergency 3rd catcher.

[redbirdfan51]

Cards have a number of good catchers in their system. Herrera may have a position change in his future rather just as a career DH.

[Adam2]

He's going to be DH, unless perhaps they put in an offseason of work at LF

[rockondlouie]

Ivan's slot is of course DH where he should be inked in every game he's available.

I suggested after watching him (fail) last season behind the plate they give him an OF'ers glove and have J. Jay work w/him.

I think that option is still valid this coming offseason.

Not that he'd be needed out there on a FT basis but just to give his Manager some flexibility and to keep him from behind the plate.

Play him some in the OF during STing games.

if he flounders, nothing ventured---nothing gained.

If he takes to it, then you've got position options.

But for now he should never be behind the plate and should be the FT/DH.

JMO

[Futuregm2]

His career CS% is actually worse than that, too. Last year half of his “Caught stealings” (2 of the 4) were pick offs by the pitchers that the catcher for whatever reason gets credit for. His only caught stealings last year were Juan Soto and Zach Neto. Those players should probably be banned from running because of that.

1 of the 2 in 2023 was a caught stealing of home, which doesn’t take an arm to get the runner.

[WaltsSuccessor]

Need to find another position but where?

DH.

Would be great if Contreras could still catch 40-50% of the games, play 1B 40-50% of the time and DH the rest while Herrera is the primary DH, plays 1B 10-20% of the time and is the emergency 3rd catcher.

This. Then depending on where we're at with Jordan Walker by the end of the season, you could have Herrera start learning LF this winter. Noot can move back to RF.

The bat is going to play. Also, the DH position may become more open in 2026 depending on what happens with Gorman and/or Burleson. They'll probably have to make a decision(s) on who to keep this offseason one way or another.

[woofy25]

He’ll play 1B once Contreras contract is over. Hes a DH until then. The real question why only 10 attempts against him?

[lined2left]

And yet, he catches baseball games in the major leagues. Weird.

[Wattage]

so where else could he play? guys are 10 for 10 against him stealing in is limited time and most arn't even close. That will cost them games. Need to find another position but where? He runs well enough to play LF but doesn't have the instincts there. It's like Walker who when running to his right or left is greatly improved but on sinking line drives or over his head doesn't make quick enough adjustments. Only time and experience teaches that.

Herrera is way too valuable a hitter to have him play the most physically taxing position on field. Plus his history of injuries? uh NO, need his bat in middle of lineup. Perhaps he could be taught first base and move WC behind plate tho he was less than average as a thrower there as well.

With all the moving parts on this team hopefully Mormol and mgt will figure out what works and what doesn't.

Have been truly amazed at the resilience of this team and how they just refuse to give up when behind and keep grinding out AB's. Solid starting pitching that's not blowing anyone away which the baseball pundits have decided is the only way to pitch. Dunc used to teach pitch to contact which was kinda successful for a long time on his teams. That's what STL starting pitchers do combined with best D in MLB kinda is a winning formulae.

Herrera has played some 1b but contreras is there for the time being. Im not sure about herrera in outfield. From what ive seen, hes never played it since at least all the way bacl to highschool, and he has slightly below avg speed so he camt make up for an off read with speed.

But some players do pick up learning the outfield faster than walker. You never know

[Banner29]

He's going to be DH, unless perhaps they put in an offseason of work at LF

This is where I stand on it. Maybe try him out at LF and see what Jon Jay can do with him. After all he seems to be working wonders with the outfielders. But Scott, Noot, and now possibly Walker appear to be locking down all 3 spots. Maybe just make things simple and let the kid do what he does best and hit. Maybe think about first base a few years down the road when Contreras contract is done.

But the DH is now in the NL and only thing they should be focused on is making sure a bat is in his hands and a catchers mitt is out of it. Thinking of what glove he does need should not even be a thought

[imetsatchelpaige]

He has an OPS of over 1000.
He is our DH.
I do not care if you ever throws out another person again trying to steal on the rare days that he will catch.