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They show us at $5,025,150 of cap space, but I don't see Krug's LTIR. Why is that not included?
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They advanced the site to the 2025-2026 season and Krug would not yet be on LTIR in that hypothetical scenario.
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I think any LTIR claims have to be submitted after the session officially starts (day 1) and they don't automatically carry over from one season to the next. Even though krug isn't expected to play again, they'll still need to submit his LTIR claim at the beginning of every season. I think that's how it works anyway. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks, both of you make sense, I just looked at the what they were reporting. Just did not make sense.
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Slightly off the subject, but given the imperatives of locking in Broberg & Holloway & Hofer, I don't see a lot of room to be jimmying around for FAs, other than perhaps low-cost replacements for Texier or Faksa, who I wouldn't mind keeping anyway, if Texier is not healthy.
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MikoTython wrote: 29 May 2025 01:30 am Slightly off the subject, but given the imperatives of locking in Broberg & Holloway & Hofer, I don't see a lot of room to be jimmying around for FAs, other than perhaps low-cost replacements for Texier or Faksa, who I wouldn't mind keeping anyway, if Texier is not healthy.
Broberg and Holloway deals would not start until 26-27 when the cap is $104 million at which point Leddy, Joseph, Toropchenko, Walker, and Sunny are all ufa’s. Texier is RFA then too and likely would not be offered unless has big turn around next year.
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MikoTython wrote: 29 May 2025 01:30 am Slightly off the subject, but given the imperatives of locking in Broberg & Holloway & Hofer, I don't see a lot of room to be jimmying around for FAs, other than perhaps low-cost replacements for Texier or Faksa, who I wouldn't mind keeping anyway, if Texier is not healthy.
I would let Hofer go.
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MikoTython wrote: 29 May 2025 01:30 am Slightly off the subject, but given the imperatives of locking in Broberg & Holloway & Hofer, I don't see a lot of room to be jimmying around for FAs, other than perhaps low-cost replacements for Texier or Faksa, who I wouldn't mind keeping anyway, if Texier is not healthy.
Chris Kerber was on 101 yesterday and was asked about potentially signing Sam Bennett as a free agent. He mentioned such a signing in excess of Thomas and Kyrou would completely upset the team salary structure since Holloway would likely deserve even more based on his superior stats. And truth be told I would much rather lock Broberg and Holloway up anyway.

The one name Kerbs mentioned as a possible stop gap UFA signing until Dvorsky is ready: C Trent Frederic who would bring extra physicality and a willingness to play up to and over the edge. I know he's not particularly well regarded by some, but maybe on a short term contract with a home town discount it would work.
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noted wrote: 29 May 2025 05:57 am
MikoTython wrote: 29 May 2025 01:30 am Slightly off the subject, but given the imperatives of locking in Broberg & Holloway & Hofer, I don't see a lot of room to be jimmying around for FAs, other than perhaps low-cost replacements for Texier or Faksa, who I wouldn't mind keeping anyway, if Texier is not healthy.
Broberg and Holloway deals would not start until 26-27 when the cap is $104 million at which point Leddy, Joseph, Toropchenko, Walker, and Sunny are all ufa’s. Texier is RFA then too and likely would not be offered unless has big turn around next year.
Does anyone project likely cap room into future years? Just curious what the cap would look like with Leddy and Faulk off the books and Broberg and Holloway signed to likely contracts.
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Curious.,...under OS guidelines when could the Blues offer extensions to Bro and Dylan?
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dhsux wrote: 29 May 2025 08:16 am Curious.,...under OS guidelines when could the Blues offer extensions to Bro and Dylan?
It’d have nothing to do with offer sheet guidelines. But any player is eligible for an extension once they have only 1 year left on their current contract. So both of these guys are eligible to be re-signed on July 1st. So about a month from now.
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danno wrote: 29 May 2025 00:49 am I think any LTIR claims have to be submitted after the session officially starts (day 1) and they don't automatically carry over from one season to the next. Even though krug isn't expected to play again, they'll still need to submit his LTIR claim at the beginning of every season. I think that's how it works anyway. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
You’re correct. Krug said contract is counted in cap. Teams can go over cap during off season ( I believe 10% but not sure). So if Blues go over say 6.5 (Krug contract) on day one they would have to assign player(s) to AHL to get to cap. Then on day 1 they can put Krug on LTIR and bring assign player(s) backup. Example, technically Blues have approximately 11.5 cap space this summer. If they sign Hoefer to 2.5 and player(s) to 9 million. On day one they could assign 6.5 million in contracts, let’s say Sunny, Joseph and Texier to AHL ( subject them to waivers but probably a good chance no one picks them up) then after day 1 bring those 3 back up (I seem to remember seeing Edmonton contemplating this with Kane and his LTIR last summer). Now it’s also my understanding (could be wrong) that any amount team is short of cap ceiling the LTIR players contract must go to get to cap ceiling then team can use whatever amount is left on said contract to go over cap. Say Blues are at 93 million, 2 million of Krugs contract goes to cap ceiling the Blues can go over cap by 4.5 (whew). That’s why teams like Vegas and Tampa go to cap limit then place player on LTIR.
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TBone wrote: 29 May 2025 06:46 am
noted wrote: 29 May 2025 05:57 am
MikoTython wrote: 29 May 2025 01:30 am Slightly off the subject, but given the imperatives of locking in Broberg & Holloway & Hofer, I don't see a lot of room to be jimmying around for FAs, other than perhaps low-cost replacements for Texier or Faksa, who I wouldn't mind keeping anyway, if Texier is not healthy.
Broberg and Holloway deals would not start until 26-27 when the cap is $104 million at which point Leddy, Joseph, Toropchenko, Walker, and Sunny are all ufa’s. Texier is RFA then too and likely would not be offered unless has big turn around next year.
Does anyone project likely cap room into future years? Just curious what the cap would look like with Leddy and Faulk off the books and Broberg and Holloway signed to likely contracts.
Like with the ability to insert contracts that don’t exist yet and play around with it? All of the cap websites have various calculators/fantasy GM modes but I haven’t really messed with those so not sure of the particulars. I’ve always just tracked it via excel. There’s probably an easier way to do it though.
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TBone wrote: 29 May 2025 06:44 am
MikoTython wrote: 29 May 2025 01:30 am Slightly off the subject, but given the imperatives of locking in Broberg & Holloway & Hofer, I don't see a lot of room to be jimmying around for FAs, other than perhaps low-cost replacements for Texier or Faksa, who I wouldn't mind keeping anyway, if Texier is not healthy.
Chris Kerber was on 101 yesterday and was asked about potentially signing Sam Bennett as a free agent. He mentioned such a signing in excess of Thomas and Kyrou would completely upset the team salary structure since Holloway would likely deserve even more based on his superior stats. And truth be told I would much rather lock Broberg and Holloway up anyway.

The one name Kerbs mentioned as a possible stop gap UFA signing until Dvorsky is ready: C Trent Frederic who would bring extra physicality and a willingness to play up to and over the edge. I know he's not particularly well regarded by some, but maybe on a short term contract with a home town discount it would work.
Pretty sure Frederic has only played on the wing recently
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STL fan in MN wrote: 29 May 2025 08:32 am
dhsux wrote: 29 May 2025 08:16 am Curious.,...under OS guidelines when could the Blues offer extensions to Bro and Dylan?
It’d have nothing to do with offer sheet guidelines. But any player is eligible for an extension once they have only 1 year left on their current contract. So both of these guys are eligible to be re-signed on July 1st. So about a month from now.
Thank you
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TBone wrote: 29 May 2025 06:44 am Chris Kerber was on 101 yesterday and was asked about potentially signing Sam Bennett as a free agent. He mentioned such a signing in excess of Thomas and Kyrou would completely upset the team salary structure since Holloway would likely deserve even more based on his superior stats.
Superior stats? Bennett isn't going to get paid based on regular season stats from one season...
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