Islanders Trade?

[Cujo's Mask]

Thinking through candidates for the open middle-six center position, I came across Pageau. He just finished 2nd in the NHL in FO% at 59.6%, had 42 points and was a plus 4 on a below average team. Plus, he is a right shot and plays a bunch on the PK.

He has one year left on his deal at 5 million. He has a M-NTC (16 team), so I am not sure if he would have to approve a trade to us. But I think I would be down if the acquisition cost is not too high.

Also, I wonder if we could offset some of the assets needed by taking on Mayfield. His contract is an issue (5 more years at 3.5 per and he turns 33 in October), but he would be an ideal 3rd pairing RD for a little while at least. Still has some juice left and was a +18 this year for them.

Both help out an ailing PK (we were 27th) and 5-on-6.

Thoughts?

[seattleblue]

If I'm the Islanders this is the kind of player I'm selling at the deadline assuming they're not in the hunt, and I can probably get a 1st+ for such a player then

[TheJackBurton]

Thinking through candidates for the open middle-six center position, I came across Pageau. He just finished 2nd in the NHL in FO% at 59.6%, had 42 points and was a plus 4 on a below average team. Plus, he is a right shot and plays a bunch on the PK.

He has one year left on his deal at 5 million. He has a M-NTC (16 team), so I am not sure if he would have to approve a trade to us. But I think I would be down if the acquisition cost is not too high.

Also, I wonder if we could offset some of the assets needed by taking on Mayfield. His contract is an issue (5 more years at 3.5 per and he turns 33 in October), but he would be an ideal 3rd pairing RD for a little while at least. Still has some juice left and was a +18 this year for them.

Both help out an ailing PK (we were 27th) and 5-on-6.

Thoughts?

Adding Mayfield would actually worsen the deal.

If they add him they'd either have to add more, take back an equally bad contract, or retain.

That contract is a negative at this point.

[Cujo's Mask]

Thinking through candidates for the open middle-six center position, I came across Pageau. He just finished 2nd in the NHL in FO% at 59.6%, had 42 points and was a plus 4 on a below average team. Plus, he is a right shot and plays a bunch on the PK.

He has one year left on his deal at 5 million. He has a M-NTC (16 team), so I am not sure if he would have to approve a trade to us. But I think I would be down if the acquisition cost is not too high.

Also, I wonder if we could offset some of the assets needed by taking on Mayfield. His contract is an issue (5 more years at 3.5 per and he turns 33 in October), but he would be an ideal 3rd pairing RD for a little while at least. Still has some juice left and was a +18 this year for them.

Both help out an ailing PK (we were 27th) and 5-on-6.

Thoughts?

Adding Mayfield would actually worsen the deal.

If they add him they'd either have to add more, take back an equally bad contract, or retain.

That contract is a negative at this point.

Oh, for sure. The idea of taking on Mayfield would be to lessen the cost to acquire JPG. As Seattle mentioned above, the Islanders are probably better off waiting until the deadline to move him otherwise. Mayfield is a negative asset otherwise, and I would not be interested in him as a standalone.

[TheJackBurton]

Thinking through candidates for the open middle-six center position, I came across Pageau. He just finished 2nd in the NHL in FO% at 59.6%, had 42 points and was a plus 4 on a below average team. Plus, he is a right shot and plays a bunch on the PK.

He has one year left on his deal at 5 million. He has a M-NTC (16 team), so I am not sure if he would have to approve a trade to us. But I think I would be down if the acquisition cost is not too high.

Also, I wonder if we could offset some of the assets needed by taking on Mayfield. His contract is an issue (5 more years at 3.5 per and he turns 33 in October), but he would be an ideal 3rd pairing RD for a little while at least. Still has some juice left and was a +18 this year for them.

Both help out an ailing PK (we were 27th) and 5-on-6.

Thoughts?

Adding Mayfield would actually worsen the deal.

If they add him they'd either have to add more, take back an equally bad contract, or retain.

That contract is a negative at this point.

Oh, for sure. The idea of taking on Mayfield would be to lessen the cost to acquire JPG. As Seattle mentioned above, the Islanders are probably better off waiting until the deadline to move him otherwise. Mayfield is a negative asset otherwise, and I would not be interested in him as a standalone.

I'm sorry I misread what you typed, so yeah you are correct.

And yes seattle likely is as well. The entire 2025-2026 season might be one of the most active we've seen in a decade or more. 85% of the league is going to have a good amount of cap space to work with for re-signing, trades, and UFA.

I can't really remember an off season and trade deadline I was more hyped for.

[Cujo's Mask]

Thinking through candidates for the open middle-six center position, I came across Pageau. He just finished 2nd in the NHL in FO% at 59.6%, had 42 points and was a plus 4 on a below average team. Plus, he is a right shot and plays a bunch on the PK.

He has one year left on his deal at 5 million. He has a M-NTC (16 team), so I am not sure if he would have to approve a trade to us. But I think I would be down if the acquisition cost is not too high.

Also, I wonder if we could offset some of the assets needed by taking on Mayfield. His contract is an issue (5 more years at 3.5 per and he turns 33 in October), but he would be an ideal 3rd pairing RD for a little while at least. Still has some juice left and was a +18 this year for them.

Both help out an ailing PK (we were 27th) and 5-on-6.

Thoughts?

Adding Mayfield would actually worsen the deal.

If they add him they'd either have to add more, take back an equally bad contract, or retain.

That contract is a negative at this point.

Oh, for sure. The idea of taking on Mayfield would be to lessen the cost to acquire JPG. As Seattle mentioned above, the Islanders are probably better off waiting until the deadline to move him otherwise. Mayfield is a negative asset otherwise, and I would not be interested in him as a standalone.

I'm sorry I misread what you typed, so yeah you are correct.

And yes seattle likely is as well. The entire 2025-2026 season might be one of the most active we've seen in a decade or more. 85% of the league is going to have a good amount of cap space to work with for re-signing, trades, and UFA.

I can't really remember an off season and trade deadline I was more hyped for.

Going to be a wild offseason. More than half the teams in the league currently have $20+ million in cap space. A lot of guys are going to get PAID.

And to your point, there would seem to be a much higher probability this offseason of good teams having money and therefore be willing to take on big contracts from the weaker teams (a la Florida taking on Seth Jones' deal). The big question is whether teams like the Islanders will be motivated to sell this offseason, or if we have to wait until in-season moves pick up for the action to play out.

[hockey jedi]

Reading Matt Defranks article today about the salary cap. I don't think the Blues will do much. Our team will start the season the way we ended with a few exceptions. I believe Texier will be bought out, Hofer will be signed and Dvo will start the year with the Blues. They will wait until the season starts to put Krug on LTIR. They will save whatever cap space they have for trade deadline next year. I can't see the Blues trading Faulk or Schenn at this point. I believe this is a good thing for the Blues. Let's see what we have with our prospects.

Defranks makes the point that the Blues have only twice before had three young players (Bolduc, Snuggerud and Dvo) on the opening season roster, but times are different now and these three are higher end prospects than who we've had before. I don't see why that would be a problem. Have Dvo as 3C and Schenn as 2C until Dvo can move up.

[Phil McCrakin]

Reading Matt Defranks article today about the salary cap. I don't think the Blues will do much. Our team will start the season the way we ended with a few exceptions. I believe Texier will be bought out, Hofer will be signed and Dvo will start the year with the Blues. They will wait until the season starts to put Krug on LTIR. They will save whatever cap space they have for trade deadline next year. I can't see the Blues trading Faulk or Schenn at this point. I believe this is a good thing for the Blues. Let's see what we have with our prospects.

Defranks makes the point that the Blues have only twice before had three young players (Bolduc, Snuggerud and Dvo) on the opening season roster, but times are different now and these three are higher end prospects than who we've had before. I don't see why that would be a problem. Have Dvo as 3C and Schenn as 2C until Dvo can move up.

I believe the Blues will have roughly 11.5 cap space (if they don't make any trades this summer). They can use Krugs 6.5 up until the season opener. They can send Texier, Joseph and Sunny (they collectively make Krugs 6.5) to AHL for a day (have to put them on waivers but seriously doubt any team will take them) Once the season starts you can (and will) bring them back up .They'll have to give Hoefer between 2 to 2.5 ( to match any offer sheet that may come his way). That leaves 9 to 9.5 million on 2C/3C and depth defenseman. I might be totally off but going by Puckpedia.

[hockey jedi]

Thanks Phil, I misread that. I thought it benefitted the Blues to wait until the season started to place Krug on LTIR.

[dhsux]

Reading Matt Defranks article today about the salary cap. I don't think the Blues will do much. Our team will start the season the way we ended with a few exceptions. I believe Texier will be bought out, Hofer will be signed and Dvo will start the year with the Blues. They will wait until the season starts to put Krug on LTIR. They will save whatever cap space they have for trade deadline next year. I can't see the Blues trading Faulk or Schenn at this point. I believe this is a good thing for the Blues. Let's see what we have with our prospects.

Defranks makes the point that the Blues have only twice before had three young players (Bolduc, Snuggerud and Dvo) on the opening season roster, but times are different now and these three are higher end prospects than who we've had before. I don't see why that would be a problem. Have Dvo as 3C and Schenn as 2C until Dvo can move up.

I believe the Blues will have roughly 11.5 cap space (if they don't make any trades this summer). They can use Krugs 6.5 up until the season opener. They can send Texier, Joseph and Sunny (they collectively make Krugs 6.5) to AHL for a day (have to put them on waivers but seriously doubt any team will take them) Once the season starts you can (and will) bring them back up .They'll have to give Hoefer between 2 to 2.5 ( to match any offer sheet that may come his way). That leaves 9 to 9.5 million on 2C/3C and depth defenseman. I might be totally off but going by Puckpedia.

If there's an OS for Hofer that would be a dang low one wouldn't it? Why would any team bother?

[Phil McCrakin]

Thanks Phil, I misread that. I thought it benefitted the Blues to wait until the season started to place Krug on LTIR.

I just remember last summer Edmonton (after Blues sent offer sheets) could go over the cap but had to send players down when season started (to get to cap) then could put Kane on LTIR and bring those players back on roster. Also if your not at the cap limit you can only go over the amount left on LTIR that goes over cap. Example, if Blues are at 93 million (2 million under cap). They have to use 2 million of Kruger total to get to cap limit then can go 4.5 over it. That’s why teams like Vegas goes to cap limit then they can use the LTIR player entire salary.

[zamadoo]

Islanders roster appears to be in shambles. They need to get young and add wingers. Pageau could very well be a good fit here.

Roy was Bolduc's coach in jrs. I wonder if there's interest in trying to acquire him from us?

Bolduc+Faulk+ for Dobson+Pageau+Mayfield

I've been targeting Dobson for months, but I don't really think it's going to happen, nor do I want to trade Bolduc. At this point I'm not really keen on acquiring Mayfield and his contract, but do think he is what we could use at 3RD.

[3rd base fan]

What could u get for krugs ltlr

[TheJackBurton]

Thanks Phil, I misread that. I thought it benefitted the Blues to wait until the season started to place Krug on LTIR.

Yes you want to wait until opening day to put him on LTIR.

[Phil McCrakin]

Islanders roster appears to be in shambles. They need to get young and add wingers. Pageau could very well be a good fit here.

Roy was Bolduc's coach in jrs. I wonder if there's interest in trying to acquire him from us?

Bolduc+Faulk+ for Dobson+Pageau+Mayfield

I've been targeting Dobson for months, but I don't really think it's going to happen, nor do I want to trade Bolduc. At this point I'm not really keen on acquiring Mayfield and his contract, but do think he is what we could use at 3RD.

I wouldn’t include Bolduc (package) in any deal right now. He has 25 goal potential, sound defensive and shows a bit of grit. He just turned 22 and will start filling out physically in next couple of years. Unless Blues are presented with an “Offer you can’t refuse” I would hold on to him.

[tfriede2]

What could u get for krugs ltlr

Nothing.