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Hooking
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Maton for closer

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Dude is nails.
Has the attitude and the skill to back it up.

Helsley washed.
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Hooking wrote: 25 May 2025 19:05 pm Dude is nails.
Has the attitude and the skill to back it up.

Helsley washed.
Nobody cares for rage bait threads. Have a nice day
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I feel shame for responding to this thread
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woofy25 wrote: 25 May 2025 19:15 pm I feel shame for responding to this thread
Don’t be so hard on yourself.
It’s comic relief.
Not the only Rocket Scientist OP on here today.
riff raff
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He's been a very good acquisition, Very good
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Hooking wrote: 25 May 2025 19:05 pm Dude is nails.
Has the attitude and the skill to back it up.

Helsley washed.
He might have his moments but he is also very capable of coming out and blowing hitters away too. Maybe not the best closer in the game like some think but top ten easily. Still pretty darn valuable and we could do a lot worse. Maton would likely be overexposed full time in the role - career 4.11 ERA. RH just recently set the team record for saves and now washed up?

When you reach the top of the mountain there is nowhere to go but down. Most other team’s closers will never achieve what he already has in the entire careers.
Futuregm2
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Hooking wrote: 25 May 2025 19:05 pm Dude is nails.
Has the attitude and the skill to back it up.

Helsley washed.
Sounds like someone is desperate to come up with something to complain about.
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Hooking wrote: 25 May 2025 19:05 pm Dude is nails.
Has the attitude and the skill to back it up.

Helsley washed.
Allowing a leadoff double and following it with a HBP to put the go-ahead run on is hardly "nails."

But I give him credit, in very Helseyesque fashion, he mopped up the mess he made and closed it out.
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Maton is more of a setup guy

Doesn’t have closer stuff, he only throws 90mph but good in 7th or 8th inning

Breaking ball usually pretty good for swing and miss
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blackinkbiz wrote: 25 May 2025 22:39 pm
Hooking wrote: 25 May 2025 19:05 pm Dude is nails.
Has the attitude and the skill to back it up.

Helsley washed.
Allowing a leadoff double and following it with a HBP to put the go-ahead run on is hardly "nails."

But I give him credit, in very Helseyesque fashion, he mopped up the mess he made and closed it out.
Yes , he did . If the result is no runs allowed , makes no difference if you get them out 1, 2, 3 OR you load up the bases and get the 3rd out.
Only difference is that in latter case, you give thousands of fans AT the game and those watching on TV heart palpitations, AFIB symptoms, high blood pressure, possible strokes , mild heart attacks but other than that no big deal !
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Baseball Savant wrote: 25 May 2025 22:41 pm Maton is more of a setup guy

Doesn’t have closer stuff, he only throws 90mph but good in 7th or 8th inning
100% agree
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And the contrast between the speed of Maton and Helsley could also be an advantage.
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He’s now 7/20. Solid plan
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Absolut wrote: 26 May 2025 06:37 am He’s now 7/20. Solid plan
7/20. I’m not following.
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Hooking wrote: 25 May 2025 19:05 pm Dude is nails.
Has the attitude and the skill to back it up.

Helsley washed.
Huh?
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 26 May 2025 06:45 am
Absolut wrote: 26 May 2025 06:37 am He’s now 7/20. Solid plan
7/20. I’m not following.
I think that's his success rate. Either way, this post made me laugh. Moving Helsley out of the closer role is the last thing this org would do. Either way, happy mm day dog. You are one of the good guys. Humble dude. I like that. If you are humble, that means you can still learn stuff even if you are old. Plus your posts usually have some component to them that makes the reader think. Keep up the good work.
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