Sonny Gray

[Talkin' Baseball]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

[vegascardsfan5890]

Were finally playing great baseball and we are in the thick of the division and wild card races.

Stop talking about trading guys. Now is not the time

[Wattage]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Are the braves gonna even want him evem if he did waive for them? Real chance braves arent competing for playoff spot at which point theyd have no use for him

[Cusecards]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

[BrockFloodMaris]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

I am reading on cards talk and in other places that Gray’s velocity is down. That is a huge red flag for any team that might be looking to add starting pitching.

[Cusecards]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

I am reading on cards talk and in other places that Gray’s velocity is down. That is a huge red flag for any team that might be looking to add starting pitching.

True and a ways to go before anything could happen.
NTC still a big factor.

[Quincy Varnish]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

Gray’s contract wouldn’t be an easy one to move without the NTC. He’ll cost $40M in 2026 if his 2027 option is declined. He wouldn’t be short on suitors, but it’s still unlikely teams would be offering their top prospects.

It was a poorly designed contract, and the Cards probably end up eating it.

[thetank2]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

Gray’s contract wouldn’t be an easy one to move without the NTC. He’ll cost $40M in 2026 if his 2027 option is declined. He wouldn’t be short on suitors, but it’s still unlikely teams would be offering their top prospects.

It was a poorly designed contract, and the Cards probably end up eating it.

Boo hoo hoo. Have to find something to gripe about during an 8 game winning streak.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

I would not extend him.

[Cusecards]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

Gray’s contract wouldn’t be an easy one to move without the NTC. He’ll cost $40M in 2026 if his 2027 option is declined. He wouldn’t be short on suitors, but it’s still unlikely teams would be offering their top prospects.

It was a poorly designed contract, and the Cards probably end up eating it.

Probably right.
Payroll may not be an issue in 2026?
Arenado could still be dealt although his $$ are less in 2026.
I assumed Matz/Mikolas would both be gone to the tune of saving $30M.
LOL...of course at the moment they are doing well!

[Quincy Varnish]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

Gray’s contract wouldn’t be an easy one to move without the NTC. He’ll cost $40M in 2026 if his 2027 option is declined. He wouldn’t be short on suitors, but it’s still unlikely teams would be offering their top prospects.

It was a poorly designed contract, and the Cards probably end up eating it.

Probably right.
Payroll may not be an issue in 2026?
Arenado could still be dealt although his $$ are less in 2026.
I assumed Matz/Mikolas would both be gone to the tune of saving $30M.
LOL...of course at the moment they are doing well!

Ya… the rotation will obviously get much younger next year. They can handle the Gray/Arenado/Contreras contracts, but I think they may still move Arenado.

[Quincy Varnish]

Gray’s contract wouldn’t be an easy one to move without the NTC. He’ll cost $40M in 2026 if his 2027 option is declined. He wouldn’t be short on suitors, but it’s still unlikely teams would be offering their top prospects.

It was a poorly designed contract, and the Cards probably end up eating it.

Boo hoo hoo. Have to find something to gripe about during an 8 game winning streak.

You’re a very confused man.

[Cusecards]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

Gray’s contract wouldn’t be an easy one to move without the NTC. He’ll cost $40M in 2026 if his 2027 option is declined. He wouldn’t be short on suitors, but it’s still unlikely teams would be offering their top prospects.

It was a poorly designed contract, and the Cards probably end up eating it.

Probably right.
Payroll may not be an issue in 2026?
Arenado could still be dealt although his $$ are less in 2026.
I assumed Matz/Mikolas would both be gone to the tune of saving $30M.
LOL...of course at the moment they are doing well!

Ya… the rotation will obviously get much younger next year. They can handle the Gray/Arenado/Contreras contracts, but I think they may still move Arenado.

Arenado could once again be the hot topic of the Hot Stove at the deadline and beyond.
Gorman or Donovan could settle in at 3B.
Don’t know if JJ could factor in there.

I’m looking forward to this season even if they don’t make a run in September.
You mentioned the rotation:
Has Libby arrived?
Is Pallante a solid #5??
At some point we’ll see:
McGreevy
Graceffo
Mathews
Roby
Hence
Etc etc

[thetank2]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Upside- Solid veteran pitcher. Only one year left on contract. Could act as a good mentor for the younger pitchers.
Downside- Age. Costly last year. NTC makes him tough to move.

If he is not moved at the deadline and he has a very strong season it’s possible they could look to rework/extend him if it makes sense. Spread his 2026 $$ out over an additional season??

Anyone can be dealt if the return is a very good one but that NTC will limit what the team can do.

I am reading on cards talk and in other places that Gray’s velocity is down. That is a huge red flag for any team that might be looking to add starting pitching.

His velocity is down so he'll waive his NTC and then we ship $20 million to some team and a low level prospect?

Eat the money. Quit claiming concern.

[RamFan08NY]

What is the current position of Cards Talk posters on trading Sonny Gray? I understand that he has a no-trade clause and that he did not express an interest in being traded in the off-season. He has expressed a desire to play close to his home in Tennessee. That would leave the Reds and the Braves as possibilities. I assume that a trade within the division to the Reds is off the table, so that leaves the Braves. They got off to a slow start. They have pitching injuries and rank in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. #1- Would you entertain trading him to the Braves if he would waive his NTC? #2- If you would, who do the Braves have that you would be interested in? 21 of their top 30 prospects are pitchers.

Let's go back to step 1 . Gray said he would not waive his NTC. Shouldn't you just stop there?

[PadsFS07]

Cincinnati is not close to Nashville.