Page 1 of 6
Burleson
Posted: 05 May 2025 23:12 pm
by Shady
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 05:36 am
by Monsieur De Treville
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
Allow me to speak for all the bold, malcontents, nitwits, hotshot, gang-bangers.
No, I find Burleson to be extremely useless.
He can't run. Middling fielder. No power.
Now some may have wet their panties because he hit two homers (finally), but let's take a serious look at the
Numbers in 2025 and in his career, shall we? In other words, we're not going to go by one to two games or how we feel or how it appears. Let's look at evidence.
2025:
255/303/343/646
3 doubles, 2 homers, 9 RBI
Okay, these numbers are truly awful. But perhaps it's an anomaly?
Career:
256/306/396/702
1, 012 ABs, 44 doubles, 32 HR, 126 RBI
Not much better. The actual data tells a compelling story. Burleson is a sub-par hitter who can't run or play great defense at a premium defensive position. He's not needed on this club. His career fWAR stands at 0.1. No value whatsoever. And at 26, he's not a kid.
There you go...attention received!
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 06:03 am
by nighthawk
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
Your doll must look mighty ravaged by now. Enjoy this attention.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 07:24 am
by Adam2
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
I generally haven't liked when Burly has been in the lineup, especially in spots expecting production. But he has had some better looking swings the last couple games. if he can build on that then i'm all for it
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 07:32 am
by JDW
He needs to be a plus .800 OPS guy to bring much value to a team. Let me know when he gets there. He's still at -0.2 bWAR for this season.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 07:36 am
by Absolut
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
Not going to change my opinion on a guy based on a week.
If Gorman hits 400 this week with a couple of bombs are you going to think be flipped a switch and can suddenly manage the strike zone?
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 08:07 am
by Talkin' Baseball
Burleson and Gorman just don't have other tools to carry them when the hit tool isn't clicking. They've both had extended periods where they are a black hole. Winn, or Donovan could go a week without hitting and you would still be glad they were there.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 08:08 am
by HorseTrader
He might end up being a decent player on another team. The fact is neither he nor Baker have a place on the Cardinals with Willie playing 1st.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 08:14 am
by Wattage
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
I think you overrate him horribly, but i think hebis showing signs of being able to hit along the lines of a .730+ ops like he did last season and should continue playing to see if he can stay hot. Even if cards wamted to trade him ciz contrerasnis entrenchedbat 1b, its to eberyones benefit and hisntrade value that we let him heat up. If gorman or walker have to go.back to minors to get regular playing time so be it. Im not confident in either one busting out of slumls right nkw
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 08:23 am
by Ozziesfan41
Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑06 May 2025 05:36 am
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
Allow me to speak for all the bold, malcontents, nitwits, hotshot, gang-bangers.
No, I find Burleson to be extremely useless.
He can't run. Middling fielder. No power.
Now some may have wet their panties because he hit two homers (finally), but let's take a serious look at the
Numbers in 2025 and in his career, shall we? In other words, we're not going to go by one to two games or how we feel or how it appears. Let's look at evidence.
2025:
255/303/343/646
3 doubles, 2 homers, 9 RBI
Okay, these numbers are truly awful. But perhaps it's an anomaly?
Career:
256/306/396/702
1, 012 ABs, 44 doubles, 32 HR, 126 RBI
Not much better. The actual data tells a compelling story. Burleson is a sub-par hitter who can't run or play great defense at a premium defensive position. He's not needed on this club. His career fWAR stands at 0.1. No value whatsoever. And at 26, he's not a kid.
There you go...attention received!
+1 his career numbers speak for themselves
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 08:43 am
by rockondlouie
It took 234 consecutive AB's for him to finally hit a HR!
Glad he followed it up w/another, keep building that trade value and we might get two bags of balls plus a broken bat for him.
BoSox anyone?
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 08:44 am
by Monsieur De Treville
Adam2 wrote: ↑06 May 2025 07:24 am
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
I generally haven't liked when Burly has been in the lineup, especially in spots expecting production.
But he has had some better looking swings the last couple games. if he can build on that then i'm all for it
The two taters were nice.
But he's still only 3 for 12 in his last 3 games.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 09:21 am
by Adam2
Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑06 May 2025 08:44 am
Adam2 wrote: ↑06 May 2025 07:24 am
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
I generally haven't liked when Burly has been in the lineup, especially in spots expecting production.
But he has had some better looking swings the last couple games. if he can build on that then i'm all for it
The two taters were nice.
But he's still only 3 for 12 in his last 3 games.
understood and agreed. At some point almost all players have a good or hot streak. i personally expect burleson to hit well for maybe the next 2-3 weeks, then return to the baseline we've seen since last summer. i hope i'm incorrect on that
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 09:40 am
by Futuregm2
My big fear is that with these last couple games Oli may keep Burleson in the 2 spot even when Winn and Herrera are back in the lineup.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 09:45 am
by Talkin' Baseball
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑06 May 2025 09:40 am
My big fear is that with these last couple games Oli may keep Burleson in the 2 spot even when Winn and Herrera are back in the lineup.
He won't.
Re: Burleson
Posted: 06 May 2025 09:47 am
by Adam2
Wattage wrote: ↑06 May 2025 08:14 am
Shady wrote: ↑05 May 2025 23:12 pm
Just curious if the bold, anti-Burleson delegation on Cards Talk are still convinced that Burleson shouldn't even be on the STL Cardinals team. What say you? And please leave me out of it. I've been fairly concerned about Burleson's hitting, this season, myself.
I think you overrate him horribly, but i think hebis showing signs of being able to hit along the lines of a .730+ ops like he did last season and should continue playing to see if he can stay hot. Even if cards wamted to trade him ciz contrerasnis entrenchedbat 1b, its to eberyones benefit and hisntrade value that we let him heat up. If gorman or walker have to go.back to minors to get regular playing time so be it. Im not confident in either one busting out of slumls right nkw
lovwe it