Why Herrera should DH

[Monsieur De Treville]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

[Turn2]

Yep, I tend to agree with you here…lots of dead weight on this roster, time to bench or send down that dead weight…you know who they are….

[JohnnyMO]

The DH position has sucked but that’s not a reason to move Herrera there. It’s not about 2025 anyway. Plus, we have DH options that hit better than Pages/Pozo. Oli may not be using them, but they exist.

[Futuregm2]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

We still need a better regular catcher than Pages though. Pages has a .633 OPS/76 OPS+ and a -2 DRS. He’s skipped down to a 0.0 bWAR this year. Probably go negative if he continues to be the starter.

[Monsieur De Treville]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

We still need a better regular catcher than Pages though. Pages has a .633 OPS/76 OPS+ and a -2 DRS. He’s skipped down to a 0.0 bWAR this year. Probably go negative if he continues to be the starter.

Sure, no doubt. But until men like Crooks or Bernal are ready, he'll have to do. However, we HAVE to get more out of our DH. It's killing this team. Pages isn't killing this team. And with Herrera's well-documented throwing struggles, he would be the perfect player to bring some life to this moribund position.

[Mort Gage]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

Herrera is in the 48th percentile of speed for all players, not just catchers. They should work him out in LF next Spring. But for now DH should be in play, especially coming off a knee injury. It is inexcusable to get so little production from DH. When he returns send Burleson and Baker down and call up Koperniak.

[riff raff]

I agree Frenchy.
When Herrera returns, he would be my primary DH and backup catcher (say 20% of the starts). That would give him a lot of at bats.
Pages is fine for now and who knows his offensive game may develop.

[riff raff]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

Herrera is in the 48th percentile of speed for all players, not just catchers. They should work him out in LF next Spring. But for now DH should be in play, especially coming off a knee injury. It is inexcusable to get so little production from DH. When he returns send Burleson and Baker down and call up Koperniak.

I would take it a step further and bring up Saggese and install him at 2B. You can send down Baker, Pozo, and Walker.
Walker should have never come north in the first place. The only reason I would keep Burleson is because he can play 1B.

[Mort Gage]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

Herrera is in the 48th percentile of speed for all players, not just catchers. They should work him out in LF next Spring. But for now DH should be in play, especially coming off a knee injury. It is inexcusable to get so little production from DH. When he returns send Burleson and Baker down and call up Koperniak.

I would take it a step further and bring up Saggese and install him at 2B. You can send down Baker, Pozo, and Walker.
Walker should have never come north in the first place. The only reason I would keep Burleson is because he can play 1B.

I partially agree. The problem with keeping Burleson is that Oli can't control himself with his usage. If Contreras sits some combination of Donovan, Herrera, and maybe Saggese or Gorman could back up first.

[riff raff]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

Herrera is in the 48th percentile of speed for all players, not just catchers. They should work him out in LF next Spring. But for now DH should be in play, especially coming off a knee injury. It is inexcusable to get so little production from DH. When he returns send Burleson and Baker down and call up Koperniak.

I would take it a step further and bring up Saggese and install him at 2B. You can send down Baker, Pozo, and Walker.
Walker should have never come north in the first place. The only reason I would keep Burleson is because he can play 1B.

I partially agree. The problem with keeping Burleson is that Oli can't control himself with his usage. If Contreras sits some combination of Donovan, Herrera, and maybe Saggese or Gorman could back up first.

Yeah, the Burly/Oli love fest is definitely a flaw and a problem. Then you keep Baker and ship Burleson and that's okay with me.

[11WSChamps]

Let Herrera get his 4-5 AB's a game at DH and let Pages/Pozo catch.

If Herrera is the real deal offensively then he should never put on a catcher's glove again.

[RichieRichSTL]

Let Herrera get his 4-5 AB's a game at DH and let Pages/Pozo catch.

If Herrera is the real deal offensively then he should never put on a catcher's glove again.

If he is a legitimate hitter, he doesnt add enough (or really much) at catcher to risk injuries that could affect his offense.

[JDW]

Currently DH Herrera a lot, while letting him get some reps at both 1B and LF in practices.
Possibly also get him some practice reps at 3B, Even a relatively weak armed C may have enough juice in his arm to play 3B, and yes, I know 3B includes some long throws, but not as long as the behind home plate and a batter to 2B long.
Also at 3B you can often have some momentum and a step toward 1B with your throws.

[rockondlouie]

Been my choice after seeing his throwing hasn't improved, he's a natural for the DH slot.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

Herrera is in the 48th percentile of speed for all players, not just catchers. They should work him out in LF next Spring. But for now DH should be in play, especially coming off a knee injury. It is inexcusable to get so little production from DH. When he returns send Burleson and Baker down and call up Koperniak.

Let him be the DH this year, but don't wait until spring to start working him out in the outfield. Let him start working out there in his pre-games now. Let him work with Jon Jay now. In a perfect world he could play there and Nootbaar could be moved. He has high trade value. In a less perfect world, there may come a day when we have to say that Jordan Walker will not work out.

[Monsieur De Treville]

Watching Bernie vid and he stated Cards DH position has contributed 0 HR and 2 RBI this season while hitting .202 with a .239 SLG. (Video could be a few days old, but I'm sure you get the point).

How bad is this? Honestly, this is the type of production we would expect from our pitchers. It's beyond horrible. I'm on board with making Herrera the primary DH!

We're not losing games due to poor play from Pages/Pozo. We're losing games because of a poor bullpen and no production from DH.

Herrera was born to DH. Maybe he takes over at first in a couple of years, but his days at catcher should be numbered! It will also help him recuperate that bad shell of his.

I've seen enough of Burly & Baker. Let Herrera DH and work him into a backup first baseman's role. We're deep in the minors with catching prospects, so his days at catching are limited anyway. Why wait?

Herrera is in the 48th percentile of speed for all players, not just catchers. They should work him out in LF next Spring. But for now DH should be in play, especially coming off a knee injury. It is inexcusable to get so little production from DH. When he returns send Burleson and Baker down and call up Koperniak.

Yeah...his future is not behind the plate.

LF is a good option as is first base or DH.
I see no real reason to put him behind the plate.