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Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:00 pm
by Baseball Savant
They all need to go…Serves no purpose for team or them to play for Cardinals in 2025. They are not part of rebuild
They will all waive no-trades
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:03 pm
by Jatalk
Baseball Savant wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:00 pm
They all need to go…Serves no purpose for team or them to play for Cardinals in 2025. They are not part of rebuild
They will all waive no-trades
They would have waived before season started if Mo had handled it correctly.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:07 pm
by Baseball Savant
No trade clauses are totally negotiating tools
Trade them to a contender, they will accept
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:16 pm
by Cusecards
Contreras and Arenado have the physical talent.
Mentally????
Nobody home upstairs I’m afraid.
And I thought more of Gray but throwing multiple meatballs ahead 1-2 or 0-2 is mentally soft.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:18 pm
by ramfandan
Baseball Savant wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:00 pm
They all need to go…Serves no purpose for team or them to play for Cardinals in 2025. They are not part of rebuild
They will all waive no-trades
Regarding Gray , his home area is Smyrna, Tn. (Nashville area ) . He signed with the Cardinals for his proximity to his home base. St. Louis is 309 miles from Nashville. I would guess after 2024 season he would be more open to 'waive' especially if he could A. return to Reds Cincy is even closer than St. Louis 273 miles and Atlanta is closest of all thre with 248 miles from Nashv. to Atl. Georgia.
So if Cards could get interest from either one of those two , Gray would probably jump at the chance .
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:20 pm
by ramfandan
ramfandan wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:18 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:00 pm
They all need to go…Serves no purpose for team or them to play for Cardinals in 2025. They are not part of rebuild
They will all waive no-trades
Regarding Gray , his home area is Smyrna, Tn. (Nashville area ) . He signed with the Cardinals for his proximity to his home base. St. Louis is 309 miles from Nashville. I would guess after 2024 season he would be more open to 'waive' especially if he could A. return to Reds Cincy is even closer than St. Louis 273 miles and Atlanta is closest of all thre with 248 miles from Nashv. to Atl. Georgia.
So if Cards could get interest from either one of those two , Gray would probably jump at the chance . Proximity to his home base is important factor for him .. a main reason he took the Cardinals free agent offer.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:24 pm
by kyace
Boston just lost their first baseman with a significant knee injury where he was carted off the field. They have no ready replacement and have prior expressed interest in Arenado. Nado was reportedly ready to play first base for San Diego so wonder if Boston will swing back to Nado for first base?
Devers has never played first base and has not played in the field at all this year so he most likely is not an option.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:49 pm
by Jatalk
Baseball Savant wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:07 pm
No trade clauses are totally negotiating tools
Trade them to a contender, they will accept
Reality is contenders may not want them.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 02 May 2025 22:58 pm
by Joseph-Magrane
Arenado is right on pace for another 2024
.250, 15 HR 60 RBI type season
Just another 2 years at $60M, just absolutely washed at this point
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 03 May 2025 00:18 am
by Chip Matthews
Joseph-Magrane wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:58 pm
Arenado is right on pace for another 2024
.250, 15 HR 60 RBI type season
Just another 2 years at $60M, just absolutely washed at this point
Do you people read contracts or know what "no trade" clauses are?
Arenado isn't $60 million for the next two years. Google his contract.
Fight among yourselves all you want, but don't make false statements.
I'm a long time ticked off Cardinals fan, but stop the lies and misinformation.
Have any of you making these idiotic trade scenarios ever been to a game?
Real life isn't like your video games.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 03 May 2025 00:51 am
by RichieRichSTL
Gray may turn out fine and all at the end of the season, but he is not pitching like an ace. I mean hes solid and all, but hes not pitching elite.
They just dont have any part of their game that is elite and until they do they are going to be a marginal playoff team at best.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 03 May 2025 04:33 am
by Bully4you
They should have been gone last off season.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 03 May 2025 04:39 am
by mattmitchl44
ramfandan wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:18 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:00 pm
They all need to go…Serves no purpose for team or them to play for Cardinals in 2025. They are not part of rebuild
They will all waive no-trades
Regarding Gray , his home area is Smyrna, Tn. (Nashville area ) . He signed with the Cardinals for his proximity to his home base. St. Louis is 309 miles from Nashville. I would guess after 2024 season he would be more open to 'waive' especially if he could A. return to Reds Cincy is even closer than St. Louis 273 miles and Atlanta is closest of all thre with 248 miles from Nashv. to Atl. Georgia.
So if Cards could get interest from either one of those two , Gray would probably jump at the chance .
Approaching Gray about accepting a trade to Atlanta should have been something the Cardinals did this past offseason when Fried and Morton both left the Braves.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 03 May 2025 07:16 am
by Cusecards
Chip Matthews wrote: ↑03 May 2025 00:18 am
Joseph-Magrane wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:58 pm
Arenado is right on pace for another 2024
.250, 15 HR 60 RBI type season
Just another 2 years at $60M, just absolutely washed at this point
Do you people read contracts or know what "no trade" clauses are?
Arenado isn't $60 million for the next two years. Google his contract.
Fight among yourselves all you want, but don't make false statements.
I'm a long time ticked off Cardinals fan, but stop the lies and misinformation.
Have any of you making these idiotic trade scenarios ever been to a game?
Real life isn't like your video games.
Like everyone else I get frustrated at times.
When that happens exaggeration can set in.
Born out of frustration.
And no....I believe the Cards owe Arenado $37M for 2026/2027?
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 03 May 2025 07:21 am
by Goldfan
Cusecards wrote: ↑02 May 2025 22:16 pm
Contreras and Arenado have the physical talent.
Mentally????
Nobody home upstairs I’m afraid.
And I thought more of Gray but throwing multiple meatballs ahead 1-2 or 0-2 is mentally soft.
I like your thinking Cuse.
Re: Contreas, Gray, Arenado
Posted: 03 May 2025 07:51 am
by Melville
Gray is owed 35M next year.
That pretty much ends all conversations before they even begin.