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Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 15:13 pm
by Basil Shabazz
Oli.... you are sleeping again. Pedro Pages is a fine player to have as a b/u catcher, but he is not an everyday player. I have no problem with him getting more of a starters load while Herrera is out, but he doesn't need to start 4 games+ in a row in 4 days.
Last 7 games - .227 .250 .273 .523
Last 14 games - .194 .211 .250 .461
You have a b/u on the bench who has swung a pretty good stick since coming up.
You have a terrible habit of falling in love with marginal players.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 15:41 pm
by bccardsfan
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 15:13 pm
Oli.... you are sleeping again. Pedro Pages is a fine player to have as a b/u catcher, but he is not an everyday player. I have no problem with him getting more of a starters load while Herrera is out, but he doesn't need to start 4 games+ in a row in 4 days.
Last 7 games - .227 .250 .273 .523
Last 14 games - .194 .211 .250 .461
You have a b/u on the bench who has swung a pretty good stick since coming up.
You have a terrible habit of falling in love with marginal players.
Agreed. Pozo was hitting and looked ok on D. Pages has been slumping, but he does look really good in the field right now. Pozo should get a start once or twice a week until IH returns. Oli being Oli....
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 17:09 pm
by cardstatman
IMHO, shoud have been 50/50 Pages and Pozo while Herrera is out. It has been 16 Pages and 5 Pozo.
It was a chance to get a look at Pozo, which is what this year is all about. The manager passed on the chance to get a good look at Pozo.
He decided to overexpose Pages instead and he responded with a .196 .220 .232 .452 line.
Pozo is at .304 .333 .565 .899 but of course it has remained a small sample size due to lack of opportunities.
It is what it is.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 17:32 pm
by cardstatman
Also, with Herrera having a knee injury, Pozo could stay on the team when he returns.
Burleson or Baker could be sent down so Herrera can DH.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 17:44 pm
by scoutyjones2
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 15:13 pm
Oli.... you are sleeping again. Pedro Pages is a fine player to have as a b/u catcher, but he is not an everyday player. I have no problem with him getting more of a starters load while Herrera is out, but he doesn't need to start 4 games+ in a row in 4 days.
Last 7 games - .227 .250 .273 .523
Last 14 games - .194 .211 .250 .461
You have a b/u on the bench who has swung a pretty good stick since coming up.
You have a terrible habit of falling in love with marginal players.
POZO doesn't throw people out
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 17:57 pm
by Melville
Pozo is in his 12 season as a professional baseball player.
He is 28 in another month.
There is nothing for the Cardinals to learn or evaluate.
Nothing.
Crooks is pretty much MLB ready right now.
Bernal will be in another 15 months or so.
Behind them are Rodriguez and Campos.
Reality is Pozo offers nothing more than injury insurance and rest days for Pages.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 18:38 pm
by Basil Shabazz
Mel
My OP never insinuated that Pozo was a prospect or needed to be evaluated.
The premise is that a below replacement level player like Pages doesn’t need to catch 4 games in 4 days.
Marmol has an affinity for average players who smile and cheer well.
This isn’t about Pozo.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 18:40 pm
by Futuregm2
Melville wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 17:57 pm
Pozo is in his 12 season as a professional baseball player.
He is 28 in another month.
There is nothing for the Cardinals to learn or evaluate.
Nothing.
Crooks is pretty much MLB ready right now.
Bernal will be in another 15 months or so.
Behind them are Rodriguez and Campos.
Reality is Pozo offers nothing more than injury insurance and
rest days for Pages.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
Can you let Oli know that?
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 18:46 pm
by thetank2
cardstatman wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 17:09 pm
IMHO, shoud have been 50/50 Pages and Pozo while Herrera is out. It has been 16 Pages and 5 Pozo.
It was a chance to get a look at Pozo, which is what this year is all about. The manager passed on the chance to get a good look at Pozo.
He decided to overexpose Pages instead and he responded with a .196 .220 .232 .452 line.
Pozo is at .304 .333 .565 .899 but of course it has remained a small sample size due to lack of opportunities.
It is what it is.
Overexpose? Please!!
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 19:29 pm
by renostl
Melville wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 17:57 pm
Pozo is in his 12 season as a professional baseball player.
He is 28 in another month.
There is nothing for the Cardinals to learn or evaluate.
Nothing.
Crooks is pretty much MLB ready right now.
Bernal will be in another 15 months or so.
Behind them are Rodriguez and Campos.
Reality is Pozo offers nothing more than injury insurance and rest days for Pages.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
100%
The only other possible reason for Pozo is
If Herrera is going to have decreased catch time for
Whatever reason post injury or more DH time.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 28 Apr 2025 20:00 pm
by Melville
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 18:38 pm
Mel
My OP never insinuated that Pozo was a prospect or needed to be evaluated.
The premise is that a below replacement level player like Pages doesn’t need to catch 4 games in 4 days.
Marmol has an affinity for average players who smile and cheer well.
This isn’t about Pozo.
My post was not directed at your OP, but rather the commentary which followed.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 29 Apr 2025 00:44 am
by sp25
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 18:38 pm
Mel
My OP never insinuated that Pozo was a prospect or needed to be evaluated.
The premise is that a below replacement level player like Pages doesn’t need to catch 4 games in 4 days.
Marmol has an affinity for average players who smile and cheer well.
This isn’t about Pozo.
With due respect, the OP is entitled "Pozo."
Re: Pozo
Posted: 29 Apr 2025 07:17 am
by Basil Shabazz
sp25 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 00:44 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 18:38 pm
Mel
My OP never insinuated that Pozo was a prospect or needed to be evaluated.
The premise is that a below replacement level player like Pages doesn’t need to catch 4 games in 4 days.
Marmol has an affinity for average players who smile and cheer well.
This isn’t about Pozo.
With due respect, the OP is entitled "Pozo."
Context.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 29 Apr 2025 08:49 am
by rockondlouie
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 15:13 pm
Oli.... you are sleeping again. Pedro Pages is a fine player to have as a b/u catcher, but he is not an everyday player. I have no problem with him getting more of a starters load while Herrera is out, but he doesn't need to start 4 games+ in a row in 4 days.
Last 7 games - .227 .250 .273 .523
Last 14 games - .194 .211 .250 .461
You have a b/u on the bench who has swung a pretty good stick since coming up.
You have a terrible habit of falling in love with marginal players.
I agree Pages is a "meh" hitter Basil.
But Pages has to start these games because he's was/is the best option to stop the running game of first the Brewers and now the Reds.

Re: Pozo
Posted: 29 Apr 2025 10:38 am
by renostl
rockondlouie wrote: ↑29 Apr 2025 08:49 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 15:13 pm
Oli.... you are sleeping again. Pedro Pages is a fine player to have as a b/u catcher, but he is not an everyday player. I have no problem with him getting more of a starters load while Herrera is out, but he doesn't need to start 4 games+ in a row in 4 days.
Last 7 games - .227 .250 .273 .523
Last 14 games - .194 .211 .250 .461
You have a b/u on the bench who has swung a pretty good stick since coming up.
You have a terrible habit of falling in love with marginal players.
I agree Pages is a "meh" hitter Basil.
But Pages has to start these games because he's was/is the best option to stop the running game of first the Brewers and now the Reds.
I'm too lazy to dig up those STAT's of pop times and arm.
I'd be somewhat surprised if the two weren't very close.
Re: Pozo
Posted: 29 Apr 2025 13:17 pm
by cards53
I too would like to see more of Pozo.
I don't understand why He hasn't been given a MLB look see by previous organizations.
Being 28 years old is not really a problem.
Four or Five years of production would be great if he turns out to be a good hitter and ok catcher.
From what little I have seen of his arm and catching seems he has a strong arm and quick release.
Haven't seen anything alarming with his defense.
As for Herrera, it seems he may have a long term problem with stolen bases and defense.
I think he is best suited for first base long term. That's for another thread though.