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Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm
by WeWentBlues0819
You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 15:09 pm
by Cranny
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
I thought it was we couldn’t any runs in the first 9 innings.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 15:10 pm
by WeWentBlues0819
Cranny wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:09 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
I thought it was we couldn’t any runs in the first 9 innings.
That certainly didn't help :lol:

Still, never seen a manager consistently [fork] up a pitching staff like Olli. It is almost an art form at this point.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 15:17 pm
by jw0595
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:10 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:09 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
I thought it was we couldn’t any runs in the first 9 innings.
That certainly didn't help :lol:

Still, never seen a manager consistently [fork] up a pitching staff like Olli. It is almost an art form at this point.
Worse than not scoring a run in 9 innings is scoring 1 run in 4 innings with a runner on 2nd & no one out.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
by hullie
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:43 pm
by Futuregm2
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
And Pop Warner for sending Siani. That should have been our win right there.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:45 pm
by Ozziesfan41
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
but it pushes those other pitchers back an extra inning meaning another inning further away from roycroft. He should have just left Matz in for at least two or three innings also instead of just throwing him one just dumb managing and not challenging the interference play just completely dumb managing

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:47 pm
by scoutyjones2
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
It's weird isn't it? The weird lengths some posters go thru to make Oli be wrong when he wasn't...

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
by ramfandan
Saggese owns some responsibility today too. Mark Sweeny was correct in post game analysis when he said Saggese path to the plate needed to be on the 3rd base /foul territory around the two fallen players . Saggese chose to weave around them on the infield side where two other players were moving in toward the errant ball.

Personally, I was surprised that Saggese didn't 'leap over' the two down players. Nothing more than jumping about two feet high to clear them. Then he takes one maybe two steps and dives to home plate.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:51 pm
by Ozziesfan41
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:47 pm
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
It's weird isn't it? The weird lengths some posters go thru to make Oli be wrong when he wasn't...
It’s amazing what lengths some posters to through to defend bad managing

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:52 pm
by Ozziesfan41
ramfandan wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:49 pm Saggese owns some responsibility today too. Mark Sweeny was correct in post game analysis when he said Saggese path to the plate needed to be on the 3rd base /foul territory around the two fallen players . Saggese chose to weave around them on the infield side where two other players were moving in toward the errant ball.

Personally, I was surprised that Saggese didn't 'leap over' the two down players. Nothing more than jumping about two feet high to clear them. Then he takes one maybe two steps and dives to home plate.
He should have tripped over then rolen style and got the interference call since he didn’t oli should have challenged it

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
by scoutyjones2
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:51 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:47 pm
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
It's weird isn't it? The weird lengths some posters go thru to make Oli be wrong when he wasn't...
It’s amazing what lengths some posters to through to defend bad managing
The Cards scored 1 run. How is that on Oli?

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 16:57 pm
by Ozziesfan41
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:51 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:47 pm
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
It's weird isn't it? The weird lengths some posters go thru to make Oli be wrong when he wasn't...
It’s amazing what lengths some posters to through to defend bad managing
The Cards scored 1 run. How is that on Oli?
Poor line up construction with Contreras continually batting second, not challenging the interference play, and giving the game away with the dumb handling of pitchers

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 17:00 pm
by hullie
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:51 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:47 pm
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
It's weird isn't it? The weird lengths some posters go thru to make Oli be wrong when he wasn't...
It’s amazing what lengths some posters to through to defend bad managing
The Cards scored 1 run. How is that on Oli?
No idea. If the hitting coach is getting all the credit when they are scoring a bunch then he should get some blame when they don’t.

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 17:03 pm
by ramfandan
Futuregm2 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:43 pm
hullie wrote: 09 Apr 2025 16:40 pm
WeWentBlues0819 wrote: 09 Apr 2025 15:02 pm You pull your starter throwing a no hitter and burn your bullpen early in extras.

I legitimately wonder how many more wins the cardinals would have had over the past few years if literally anyone on this forum was the manager instead of Olli.
So he was at 88 pitches. The next 5 pitchers didn’t allow a run? Try harder.This one’s on the offense.
And Pop Warner for sending Siani. That should have been our win right there.
And for Saggese taking the wrong route with the two fallen players on the foul line . Analyst Mark Sweeny astutely brought it up in post game studio.. Mark S said , 'Saggesse should be running on the foul side of that pile up to get to the plate NOT to the infield side where two more Buck players were charging in .'

Re: Another loss entirely on Olli

Posted: 09 Apr 2025 17:03 pm
by sdaltons
The team is not fundamentally sound. When it's more than just the same 1-2 guys making mistakes, it is fair to speculate the problem may stem from something deeper.