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Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 11:19 am
by rockondlouie
A lot of angst in here about Willy Contreras and his poor starts, here's some other known players off to poor starts too:
W. Contreras: .071 .103 .107 .210 (STL)
W. Contreras: .074 .242 .074 .316 (MILW It's a family affair)
C. Correa: .080 .115 .120 .235
C. Yelich: .083 .267 .208 .475
M. Muncy: .115 .115 .269 .384
Y. Alveraz:.125 .241 .167 .408
L. Arraez: .129 .152 .226 .378 (Batting champ)
M. Semien: .133 .188 .133 .321
F. Lindor: .136 .231 .182 .413
L. Thomas: .154 .185 .192 .377
R. Hoskins: .158 .360 .158 .518
L. Robert: .160 .214 .200 .414
B. Reynolds: .194 .237 .306 .543
In total 51 qualified MLB hitters w/below .199 BA's.
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 12:44 pm
by 82birds
thx
very interesting
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 12:46 pm
by rockondlouie
82birds wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:44 pm
thx
very interesting
Welcome birds'
Some big names on that list, very surprised when I saw Willy's brother William w/the same BA
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 12:49 pm
by CardsBest
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:19 am
A lot of angst in here about Willy Contreras and his poor starts, here's some other known players off to poor starts too:
W. Contreras: .071 .103 .107 .210 (STL)
W. Contreras: .074 .242 .074 .316 (MILW It's a family affair)
C. Correa: .080 .115 .120 .235
C. Yelich: .083 .267 .208 .475
M. Muncy: .115 .115 .269 .384
Y. Alveraz:.125 .241 .167 .408
L. Arraez: .129 .152 .226 .378 (Batting champ)
M. Semien: .133 .188 .133 .321
F. Lindor: .136 .231 .182 .413
L. Thomas: .154 .185 .192 .377
R. Hoskins: .158 .360 .158 .518
L. Robert: .160 .214 .200 .414
B. Reynolds: .194 .237 .306 .543
In total 51 qualified MLB hitters w/below .199 BA's.
Anyone making case for or against how an established players like Contreras will do this season is crazy.
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 12:52 pm
by rockondlouie
CardsBest wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:49 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:19 am
A lot of angst in here about Willy Contreras and his poor starts, here's some other known players off to poor starts too:
W. Contreras: .071 .103 .107 .210 (STL)
W. Contreras: .074 .242 .074 .316 (MILW It's a family affair)
C. Correa: .080 .115 .120 .235
C. Yelich: .083 .267 .208 .475
M. Muncy: .115 .115 .269 .384
Y. Alveraz:.125 .241 .167 .408
L. Arraez: .129 .152 .226 .378 (Batting champ)
M. Semien: .133 .188 .133 .321
F. Lindor: .136 .231 .182 .413
L. Thomas: .154 .185 .192 .377
R. Hoskins: .158 .360 .158 .518
L. Robert: .160 .214 .200 .414
B. Reynolds: .194 .237 .306 .543
In total 51 qualified MLB hitters w/below .199 BA's.
Anyone making case for or against how an established players like Contreras will do this season is crazy.
Yep
Way, way too early to make silly claims about an established ML hitter after 30 PA's when he has a career .809 OPS over 3,742 PA's.
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 14:10 pm
by The Nard
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:46 pm
82birds wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:44 pm
thx
very interesting
Welcome birds'
Some big names on that list, very surprised when I saw Willy's brother William w/the same BA
The Corsican Brothers
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:10 pm
by ilcubuffs
Younger Contrera's has split time equally batting in 3 & 4 hole. Seems to depend on if Yelich is playing. Contrera's the younger, does not yet have an RBI this year. Despite that Blowers have won 4 in a row.
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
by JDW
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:46 pm
82birds wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:44 pm
thx
very interesting
Welcome birds'
Some big names on that list, very surprised when I saw Willy's brother William w/the same BA
Wonder if William also bulked up this off season. It is weird they're both struggling so similar. If I'd have thrown siamesily similar in there would have had some alliteration going on.
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
by vegascardsfan5890
I was just about to post that both Contreras brothers are combined 4-55 with 0 HR and 3 RBI (All 3 are from Willson).
Did they have the same training routine in the winter?
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 05 Apr 2025 22:10 pm
by jw0595
vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
I was just about to post that both Contreras brothers are combined 4-55 with 0 HR and 3 RBI (All 3 are from Willson).
Did they have the same training routine in the winter?
Sounds like it, doesn't it.
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 06 Apr 2025 08:50 am
by rockondlouie
JDW wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 16:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:46 pm
82birds wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:44 pm
thx
very interesting
Welcome birds'
Some big names on that list, very surprised when I saw Willy's brother William w/the same BA
Wonder if William also bulked up this off season. It is weird they're both struggling so similar. If I'd have thrown siamesily similar in there would have had some alliteration going on.
Good point JDW
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 06 Apr 2025 08:57 am
by TXCardsFanX
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:52 pm
CardsBest wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:49 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:19 am
A lot of angst in here about Willy Contreras and his poor starts, here's some other known players off to poor starts too:
W. Contreras: .071 .103 .107 .210 (STL)
W. Contreras: .074 .242 .074 .316 (MILW It's a family affair)
C. Correa: .080 .115 .120 .235
C. Yelich: .083 .267 .208 .475
M. Muncy: .115 .115 .269 .384
Y. Alveraz:.125 .241 .167 .408
L. Arraez: .129 .152 .226 .378 (Batting champ)
M. Semien: .133 .188 .133 .321
F. Lindor: .136 .231 .182 .413
L. Thomas: .154 .185 .192 .377
R. Hoskins: .158 .360 .158 .518
L. Robert: .160 .214 .200 .414
B. Reynolds: .194 .237 .306 .543
In total 51 qualified MLB hitters w/below .199 BA's.
Anyone making case for or against how an established players like Contreras will do this season is crazy.
Yep
Way, way too early to make silly claims about an established ML hitter after 30 PA's when he has a career .809 OPS over 3,742 PA's.
I agree, and would also add that many of the players on this list have not had consistent careers.
Alveraz and Arraez are probably the most "surprising", but something tells me they will come out of their approx. 10 game slumps.
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 06 Apr 2025 09:01 am
by rockondlouie
TXCardsFanX wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 08:57 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:52 pm
CardsBest wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:49 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:19 am
A lot of angst in here about Willy Contreras and his poor starts, here's some other known players off to poor starts too:
W. Contreras: .071 .103 .107 .210 (STL)
W. Contreras: .074 .242 .074 .316 (MILW It's a family affair)
C. Correa: .080 .115 .120 .235
C. Yelich: .083 .267 .208 .475
M. Muncy: .115 .115 .269 .384
Y. Alveraz:.125 .241 .167 .408
L. Arraez: .129 .152 .226 .378 (Batting champ)
M. Semien: .133 .188 .133 .321
F. Lindor: .136 .231 .182 .413
L. Thomas: .154 .185 .192 .377
R. Hoskins: .158 .360 .158 .518
L. Robert: .160 .214 .200 .414
B. Reynolds: .194 .237 .306 .543
In total 51 qualified MLB hitters w/below .199 BA's.
Anyone making case for or against how an established players like Contreras will do this season is crazy.
Yep
Way, way too early to make silly claims about an established ML hitter after 30 PA's when he has a career .809 OPS over 3,742 PA's.
I agree, and would also add that many of the players on this list have not had consistent careers.
Alveraz and Arraez are probably the most "surprising", but something tells me they will come out of their approx. 10 game slumps.
Brother William surprising too, and the Braves....yikes!
Albies/.194
Kelenic/.154
Baldwin/.154 (FT catcher w/Murphy out)
Riley/.143
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 10 Apr 2025 17:06 pm
by Ozziesfan41
The great IL champion Luis Robert is off to a bad start also .154 with 1 RBI
Re: Contreras and other's struggling with poor starts
Posted: 10 Apr 2025 18:22 pm
by Lightning Rod
I guess you're subscribing to the "misery loves company" adage. I really don't care what other players are doing, I just know that Willy, half the time, doesn't even make contact. I see he did get a ringing infield hit against the pirates to go 1-6 and raise his average. The guy shouldn't be playing EVERY DAY and definitely shouldn't be batting in the 2 hole. How long is long enough when the guy is hitting less than .100 and striking out almost 50% of the time?