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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 08:24 am
by OldRed
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
You seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 08:57 am
by Cranny
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
It's a team stat of this ownership. That's all.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:00 am
by casey1024
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Bingo!!! We have a winner! Spot on.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:02 am
by casey1024
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
How come having a positive attitude makes you a "sock"? I don't get it.......why the need to be so glum? The key to happiness in life is the ability to be thankful for what you have as opposed to (bleep) about what you don't have! It's a fact Jack!
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:04 am
by OldRed
The decline started in 2022 when Oli took over managing. He has had the worst win/loss (325 - 323) .502 than any manager since TLR took over and his was .544. The trended when Shildt left and he was (252 - 199) .559 winning %.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:05 am
by Cranny
OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:24 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
You seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.
So, if I don't like a poster calling another poster a "Cranny sock" it means I'm in a bad mood, Red? LOL. And I need to "lighten up"? Double LOL. You have your priorities upside down. Why don't you talk baseball, instead of making a comment about another poster? Display your deep knowledge about baseball in general, and specifically the Cardinals.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:08 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:57 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
It's a team stat of this ownership. That's all.
I hear ya. So is mine. It seems lacking past 12 years. Don’t you think that’s not optimal. Now add several more years of discontent during rebuild, and soon we sit at 15 years plus minus a WS appearance. That’s franchise record territory. Under this ownership.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:09 am
by OldRed
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:05 am
OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:24 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
You seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.
So, if I don't like a poster calling another poster a "Cranny sock" it means I'm in a bad mood, Red? LOL. And I need to "lighten up"? Double LOL. You have your priorities upside down. Why don't you talk baseball, instead of making a comment about another poster? Display your deep knowledge about baseball in general, and specifically the Cardinals.
Follow your own advice.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:14 am
by Imperial Capitalist
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Someone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:17 am
by Cranny
Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Someone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
And the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:19 am
by Cranny
OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:09 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:05 am
OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:24 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
You seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.
So, if I don't like a poster calling another poster a "Cranny sock" it means I'm in a bad mood, Red? LOL. And I need to "lighten up"? Double LOL. You have your priorities upside down. Why don't you talk baseball, instead of making a comment about another poster? Display your deep knowledge about baseball in general, and specifically the Cardinals.
Follow your own advice.
Okay, what do you think about Richard Fitts? Please include major league stats, minor league stats, and scouting reports.
Thanks in advance.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:21 am
by Imperial Capitalist
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:17 am
Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Someone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
And the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.
As expected, you either don't get, or (more likely) are purposely bypassing the point.
Also, the Milwaukee Brewers are on line 1 for you...
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:33 am
by Cranny
Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:21 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:17 am
Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Someone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
And the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.
As expected, you either don't get, or (more likely) are purposely bypassing the point.
Also, the Milwaukee Brewers are on line 1 for you...
Brewers did very well. I hope we do very well again - and soon. We have a whole new regime and outlook. It's refreshing.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:39 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:33 am
Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:21 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:17 am
Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 am
Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 am
icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 am
Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pm
Web7 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2025 06:54 am
The incompetence of this ownership is very scary
You mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Are you a Cranny sock?
He’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Someone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
And the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.
As expected, you either don't get, or (more likely) are purposely bypassing the point.
Also, the Milwaukee Brewers are on line 1 for you...
Brewers did very well. I hope we do very well again - and soon. We have a whole new regime and outlook. It's refreshing.
Good post. Brewers have a good model that seems to work. We need help, and the new regime is indeed refreshing.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Posted: 06 Dec 2025 09:44 am
by WLTFE
We'll see...fortunately the bar was set very low with Mo-ran...he (bleep) this franchise the last few years and most of the front office (donkey) kissers are finally realizing how incompetent he was...