You seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Don’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
It's a team stat of this ownership. That's all.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 amDon’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Bingo!!! We have a winner! Spot on.Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
How come having a positive attitude makes you a "sock"? I don't get it.......why the need to be so glum? The key to happiness in life is the ability to be thankful for what you have as opposed to (bleep) about what you don't have! It's a fact Jack!icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
The decline started in 2022 when Oli took over managing. He has had the worst win/loss (325 - 323) .502 than any manager since TLR took over and his was .544. The trended when Shildt left and he was (252 - 199) .559 winning %.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
So, if I don't like a poster calling another poster a "Cranny sock" it means I'm in a bad mood, Red? LOL. And I need to "lighten up"? Double LOL. You have your priorities upside down. Why don't you talk baseball, instead of making a comment about another poster? Display your deep knowledge about baseball in general, and specifically the Cardinals.OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:24 amYou seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
I hear ya. So is mine. It seems lacking past 12 years. Don’t you think that’s not optimal. Now add several more years of discontent during rebuild, and soon we sit at 15 years plus minus a WS appearance. That’s franchise record territory. Under this ownership.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:57 amIt's a team stat of this ownership. That's all.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 amDon’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Follow your own advice.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:05 amSo, if I don't like a poster calling another poster a "Cranny sock" it means I'm in a bad mood, Red? LOL. And I need to "lighten up"? Double LOL. You have your priorities upside down. Why don't you talk baseball, instead of making a comment about another poster? Display your deep knowledge about baseball in general, and specifically the Cardinals.OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:24 amYou seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
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Imperial Capitalist
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Someone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 amDon’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
And the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 amSomeone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 amDon’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Okay, what do you think about Richard Fitts? Please include major league stats, minor league stats, and scouting reports.OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:09 amFollow your own advice.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:05 amSo, if I don't like a poster calling another poster a "Cranny sock" it means I'm in a bad mood, Red? LOL. And I need to "lighten up"? Double LOL. You have your priorities upside down. Why don't you talk baseball, instead of making a comment about another poster? Display your deep knowledge about baseball in general, and specifically the Cardinals.OldRed wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:24 amYou seem to be in a very bad mood lately. Jumping on anyone who doesn't agree with you. At your age you need to lighten up, just a little. I'm not telling you how to post, I've just seen a huge change in how you are posting. Also, I'm not a doctor, don't play one on TV and didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Thanks in advance.
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Imperial Capitalist
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
As expected, you either don't get, or (more likely) are purposely bypassing the point.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:17 amAnd the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 amSomeone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 amDon’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
Also, the Milwaukee Brewers are on line 1 for you...
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Brewers did very well. I hope we do very well again - and soon. We have a whole new regime and outlook. It's refreshing.Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:21 amAs expected, you either don't get, or (more likely) are purposely bypassing the point.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:17 amAnd the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 amSomeone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 amDon’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
Also, the Milwaukee Brewers are on line 1 for you...
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
Good post. Brewers have a good model that seems to work. We need help, and the new regime is indeed refreshing.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:33 amBrewers did very well. I hope we do very well again - and soon. We have a whole new regime and outlook. It's refreshing.Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:21 amAs expected, you either don't get, or (more likely) are purposely bypassing the point.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:17 amAnd the out of hand FA salaries haven't changed during that period of time? With the big market teams going bananas with huge long term contracts? Duh.Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 09:14 amSomeone quoting from the admittedly impressive pre-2013 hymnal might nonetheless do well to recall the text of mutual fund disclaimers:sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 08:33 amDon’t you think this stat sheet to be skewed heavily towards the past.Cranny wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 07:55 amHe’s not a sock. He’s a rational poster who lays out the facts. Factually sending a message to the entitlement crowd.icon wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025 00:47 amAre you a Cranny sock?Southern Illinois wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025 15:41 pmYou mean the same ownership that accomplished the following:
29 years
2 World Championships
4 Pennants
12 NL Central titles
16 playoff appearances
.544 winning percentage, 4th in baseball, 2nd in the NL
From 2000-2025, only two losing seasons
That ownership? I would say they have done pretty well. They built it once, I believe they are putting things together to do so again.
Tell me the team stat since 2013, out last WS appearance.
Past performance is not indicative of future results,
as changing market conditions, manager skill sets and fund strategies all have to adapt to keep pace with the changing environment; a lack of which does seem to aptly describe a good chunk of the last dozen years at 700 Clark Ave.
Also, the Milwaukee Brewers are on line 1 for you...
Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol
We'll see...fortunately the bar was set very low with Mo-ran...he (bleep) this franchise the last few years and most of the front office (donkey) kissers are finally realizing how incompetent he was...