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Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 16:10 pm

RunSup wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:38 pm

CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 23:14 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 21:47 pm Helluva game.

The dude can hit!

Shady is pulling an all-nighter drafting and re-editing this same post and you go and steal his thunder?? Not cool man.

That's brilliant. Start the daily Burly thread before Shady can get there.

Terrific that Burleson is increasing his perceived value. It should maximize the return when they trade him this off season.

Of course, Cardinal stupidity may continue well after Mo leaves. They probably are working on a 7 year extension for Burly right now.

"They probably are working on a 7 year extension for Burly right now". If Burleson continues to produce next season. Especially, if he shows continued progress. Maybe the Cardinals should consider a five year extension taking him through his prime years.

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 21:47 pm Helluva game.

The dude can hit!

3dender wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 14:27 pm

ecleme22 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 14:19 pm This is rough, but to me, Burleson runs a spectrum between Allen Craig and Matt Adams. Both players walked little.

Allen Craig:
In his three prime years, his BA was .315, .307, .315. IMO, AB needs to get that BA around that to really be close to a star. Because it won't happen from a walk rate. A .310 BA could put his OBP at .360 and OPS at .825. That's good.

Or he could be like Adams:
Struggling to get above .800 OPS most of his career due to the low walk rate and average-to-below-average batting average.

He's always had more than a passing resemblance to Matt Adams, not only in athleticism and defensive deficiency but down to the numbers they had at the exact same age at AA.

Adams got to his OPS total differently, with more Ks and more power, but they have pretty similar OPS and OPS+ through age 26. Adams wasn't ultimately able to make enough contact to tap into his power. Burly has the opposite problem almost of making too much contact. Can he be more selective to increase his OBP, or to be able to unload more on meatballs? Time will tell but I kinda doubt it.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:14 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Red Bird Classic wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:28 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:14 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Pure hitter? If your point is that Burley has little value but his bat, then fine, but if taken out of context, I'd almost sounds like you are talking about Ted Williams.

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:32 pm

Red Bird Classic wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:28 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:14 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Pure hitter? If your point is that Burley has little value but his bat, then fine, but if taken out of context, I'd almost sounds like you are talking about Ted Williams.

Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn and then Joey Votto were Shady's comps over the years. When he uses "Pure Hitter", he doesn't know what that means. Keep in mind, he made these claims well before he ever saw Burleson in an actual game. He's box-score whisperer. He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:09 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:32 pm

Red Bird Classic wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:28 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:14 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Pure hitter? If your point is that Burley has little value but his bat, then fine, but if taken out of context, I'd almost sounds like you are talking about Ted Williams.

Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn and then Joey Votto were Shady's comps over the years. When he uses "Pure Hitter", he doesn't know what that means. Keep in mind, he made these claims well before he ever saw Burleson in an actual game. He's box-score whisperer. He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)

"He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)". You continue to "lie like a rug". You need to refrain from your contemptuous attempts to salvage credibility by lying about my previous claims. The issue is the fact that I saw Burleson as an emerging hitting talent long ago. I posted it. And you blindly disputed that. Who looks to be more accurate in their projection on Burleson right now? You are far from a baseball GURU.

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:09 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:32 pm

Red Bird Classic wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:28 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:14 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Pure hitter? If your point is that Burley has little value but his bat, then fine, but if taken out of context, I'd almost sounds like you are talking about Ted Williams.

Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn and then Joey Votto were Shady's comps over the years. When he uses "Pure Hitter", he doesn't know what that means. Keep in mind, he made these claims well before he ever saw Burleson in an actual game. He's box-score whisperer. He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)

"He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)". You continue to "lie like a rug". You need to refrain from your contemptuous attempts to salvage credibility by lying about my previous claims. The issue is the fact that I saw Burleson as an emerging hitting talent long ago. I posted it. And you blindly disputed that. Who looks to be more accurate in their projection on Burleson right now? You are far from a baseball GURU.

Lying?

I'm not the only one who was there for those claims.

You know this.

You've said a million times you say stupid things all the time. We're not supposed to listen to you, remember? These are your words

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:17 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:09 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:32 pm

Red Bird Classic wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:28 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:14 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Pure hitter? If your point is that Burley has little value but his bat, then fine, but if taken out of context, I'd almost sounds like you are talking about Ted Williams.

Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn and then Joey Votto were Shady's comps over the years. When he uses "Pure Hitter", he doesn't know what that means. Keep in mind, he made these claims well before he ever saw Burleson in an actual game. He's box-score whisperer. He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)

"He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)". You continue to "lie like a rug". You need to refrain from your contemptuous attempts to salvage credibility by lying about my previous claims. The issue is the fact that I saw Burleson as an emerging hitting talent long ago. I posted it. And you blindly disputed that. Who looks to be more accurate in their projection on Burleson right now? You are far from a baseball GURU.

Lying?

I'm not the only one who was there for those claims.

You know this.

You've said a million times you say stupid things all the time. We're not supposed to listen to you, remember? These are your words

Yes, you are a pathological liar. I told you Burleson's play would make your lame criticism of him look like a fool this season like it did last season. Chalk another "right on" up for ole' Shady. Your specialty is being a reporter of the minor league games and giving lineups. Stick to that.

Mort Gage wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:23 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:17 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:14 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:09 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:32 pm

Red Bird Classic wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:28 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:14 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 17:12 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:32 pm

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 13:28 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 11:00 am

Rocket Scientist wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 09:50 am Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Pure hitter? If your point is that Burley has little value but his bat, then fine, but if taken out of context, I'd almost sounds like you are talking about Ted Williams.

Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn and then Joey Votto were Shady's comps over the years. When he uses "Pure Hitter", he doesn't know what that means. Keep in mind, he made these claims well before he ever saw Burleson in an actual game. He's box-score whisperer. He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)

"He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)". You continue to "lie like a rug". You need to refrain from your contemptuous attempts to salvage credibility by lying about my previous claims. The issue is the fact that I saw Burleson as an emerging hitting talent long ago. I posted it. And you blindly disputed that. Who looks to be more accurate in their projection on Burleson right now? You are far from a baseball GURU.

Lying?

I'm not the only one who was there for those claims.

You know this.

You've said a million times you say stupid things all the time. We're not supposed to listen to you, remember? These are your words

Yes, you are a pathological liar. I told you Burleson's play would make your lame criticism of him look like a fool this season like it did last season. Chalk another "right on" up for ole' Shady. Your specialty is being a reporter of the minor league games and giving lineups. Stick to that.

Craviduce adds tremendous value to the board with his minor league evals, GDTs, etc. You are a compulsively lying old fart who slobbbers over a handful of players and annoys most posters here. I won't even go into your pathetic history of creating sock handles to agree with yourself. Stick to your inflatables.