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desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:08 pm

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 15:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:13 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 13:41 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:28 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 10:36 am Cranny-
Statistically we alive for a playoff berth.
In 2006, we had players with names like Pujols, Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter.
In 2025, we have…..nothing close to any of them. Nada.
Dreaming has a place. Delusion does not.

True. Makes you wonder why they only won 83 games that season, doesn’t it?

Injuries to key players. Comparing this ragtag bunch to 2006 is asinine.

Cranny knows that.
He isn’t dumb.
Just disingenuous- that’s my read after digesting his responses (or lack thereof) to my direct questions.
Sad!

I believe I answered your questions, Satch.

The question he asked was: How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product?

Not "What are some methods others have utilized to express themselves on the subject?"...which is all you offered up.

He’ll never give an answer. Ever.

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:52 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:08 pm

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 15:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:13 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 13:41 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:28 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 10:36 am Cranny-
Statistically we alive for a playoff berth.
In 2006, we had players with names like Pujols, Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter.
In 2025, we have…..nothing close to any of them. Nada.
Dreaming has a place. Delusion does not.

True. Makes you wonder why they only won 83 games that season, doesn’t it?

Injuries to key players. Comparing this ragtag bunch to 2006 is asinine.

Cranny knows that.
He isn’t dumb.
Just disingenuous- that’s my read after digesting his responses (or lack thereof) to my direct questions.
Sad!

I believe I answered your questions, Satch.

The question he asked was: How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product?

Not "What are some methods others have utilized to express themselves on the subject?"...which is all you offered up.

He’ll never give an answer. Ever.

1.) I’d write a letter to BDW expressing my displeasure. Tell him that Mo’s bad moves and smug public personality has devalued his asset. And that my family has been huge Cardinal fans for multiple generations.
2.) I’d call in to sports radio talk shows expressing my displeasure.
3.) I’d swamp social media with comments of displeasure
4.) I’d write regular letters to the Post Dispatch that would hopefully be published in the letters section.
5.) I’d stop watching games, which would show up in a small way in surveys on percentage of TV sets tuned in to Cardinal names.
6.) I’d organize demonstrations to parade up and down outside the Cardinals offices downtown. Which would have enough local interest to be covered by the local TV media.

Happy?

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 19:06 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:52 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:08 pm

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 15:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:13 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 13:41 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:28 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 10:36 am Cranny-
Statistically we alive for a playoff berth.
In 2006, we had players with names like Pujols, Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter.
In 2025, we have…..nothing close to any of them. Nada.
Dreaming has a place. Delusion does not.

True. Makes you wonder why they only won 83 games that season, doesn’t it?

Injuries to key players. Comparing this ragtag bunch to 2006 is asinine.

Cranny knows that.
He isn’t dumb.
Just disingenuous- that’s my read after digesting his responses (or lack thereof) to my direct questions.
Sad!

I believe I answered your questions, Satch.

The question he asked was: How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product?

Not "What are some methods others have utilized to express themselves on the subject?"...which is all you offered up.

He’ll never give an answer. Ever.

1.) I’d write a letter to BDW expressing my displeasure. Tell him that Mo’s bad moves and smug public personality has devalued his asset. And that my family has been huge Cardinal fans for multiple generations.
2.) I’d call in to sports radio talk shows expressing my displeasure.
3.) I’d swamp social media with comments of displeasure
4.) I’d write regular letters to the Post Dispatch that would hopefully be published in the letters section.
5.) I’d stop watching games, which would show up in a small way in surveys on percentage of TV sets tuned in to Cardinal names.
6.) I’d organize demonstrations to parade up and down outside the Cardinals offices downtown. Which would have enough local interest to be covered by the local TV media.

Happy?

So it’s OK to “stop watching games,” but not OK to stop attending games?

And I’m sure BDWJr will take your stern letters very seriously as you simultaneously renew your tickets for next year.

In a nutshell: only express your displeasure in ways that have no real immediate financial consequences for the owner. Yep, that sounds about right . . .

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 19:06 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:52 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:08 pm

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 15:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:13 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 13:41 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:28 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 10:36 am Cranny-
Statistically we alive for a playoff berth.
In 2006, we had players with names like Pujols, Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter.
In 2025, we have…..nothing close to any of them. Nada.
Dreaming has a place. Delusion does not.

True. Makes you wonder why they only won 83 games that season, doesn’t it?

Injuries to key players. Comparing this ragtag bunch to 2006 is asinine.

Cranny knows that.
He isn’t dumb.
Just disingenuous- that’s my read after digesting his responses (or lack thereof) to my direct questions.
Sad!

I believe I answered your questions, Satch.

The question he asked was: How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product?

Not "What are some methods others have utilized to express themselves on the subject?"...which is all you offered up.

He’ll never give an answer. Ever.

1.) I’d write a letter to BDW expressing my displeasure. Tell him that Mo’s bad moves and smug public personality has devalued his asset. And that my family has been huge Cardinal fans for multiple generations.
2.) I’d call in to sports radio talk shows expressing my displeasure.
3.) I’d swamp social media with comments of displeasure
4.) I’d write regular letters to the Post Dispatch that would hopefully be published in the letters section.
5.) I’d stop watching games, which would show up in a small way in surveys on percentage of TV sets tuned in to Cardinal names.
6.) I’d organize demonstrations to parade up and down outside the Cardinals offices downtown. Which would have enough local interest to be covered by the local TV media.

Happy?

So it’s OK to “stop watching games,” but not OK to stop attending games?

And I’m sure BDWJr will take your stern letters very seriously as you simultaneously renew your tickets for next year.

In a nutshell: only express your displeasure in ways that have no real immediate financial consequences for the owner. Yep, that sounds about right . . .

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:43 pm

rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:32 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 10:36 am Cranny-
Statistically we alive for a playoff berth.
In 2006, we had players with names like Pujols, Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter.
In 2025, we have…..nothing close to any of them. Nada.
Dreaming has a place. Delusion does not.

True. Makes you wonder why they only won 83 games that season, doesn’t it?

You know good & well the star players who were injured that season.

That was a 95-100 win team if they're healthy.

Fact!!!!!

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.

That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.

So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?

Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.

Got it. Stay away from supporting the players on the field
who are working hard trying to win and be a wild card team.

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.

That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.

So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?

Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.

Got it. Stay away from supporting the players on the field
who are working hard trying to win and be a wild card team.

Bomber1 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 09:11 am

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.

That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.

So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?

Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.

Got it. Stay away from supporting the players on the field
who are working hard trying to win and be a wild card team.

What is your deal Cranny?

The other day you spent an entire thread trying to explain all the reasons that fans are staying away.

Now you’re back to scolding others for not supporting the team financially.

And thanks for letting us know that in your opinion the players are “working hard trying to win and be a wild card”, because at least that statement is funny.

FrankTheTank wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025 17:45 pm https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/ca ... 04697.html

“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”

Bomber1 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 09:11 am

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.

That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.

So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?

Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.

Got it. Stay away from supporting the players on the field
who are working hard trying to win and be a wild card team.

What is your deal Cranny?

The other day you spent an entire thread trying to explain all the reasons that fans are staying away.

Now you’re back to scolding others for not supporting the team financially.

And thanks for letting us know that in your opinion the players are “working hard trying to win and be a wild card”, because at least that statement is funny.

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:08 pm

Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 15:11 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:13 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 13:41 pm

desertrat23 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:28 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:24 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 10:36 am Cranny-
Statistically we alive for a playoff berth.
In 2006, we had players with names like Pujols, Molina, Wainwright and Carpenter.
In 2025, we have…..nothing close to any of them. Nada.
Dreaming has a place. Delusion does not.

True. Makes you wonder why they only won 83 games that season, doesn’t it?

Injuries to key players. Comparing this ragtag bunch to 2006 is asinine.

Cranny knows that.
He isn’t dumb.
Just disingenuous- that’s my read after digesting his responses (or lack thereof) to my direct questions.
Sad!

I believe I answered your questions, Satch.

The question he asked was: How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product?

Not "What are some methods others have utilized to express themselves on the subject?"...which is all you offered up.

He’ll never give an answer. Ever.

Cranny wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 15:44 pm

Bomber1 wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 09:11 am

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:58 pm

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 14:50 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:45 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:44 pm

imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:23 pm

Cranny wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 13:19 pm Got it. Turn your back on the organization, and they'll improve.

That is unfair.
Many of us are disgusted with the FO organization, but still love the team.
Big difference, Cranny.

So you boycott, and turn your back on the team you love?

Boycott has nothing to do with it. People are naturally more likely to attend any sporting event based on an expectation of quality.

Got it. Stay away from supporting the players on the field
who are working hard trying to win and be a wild card team.

What is your deal Cranny?

The other day you spent an entire thread trying to explain all the reasons that fans are staying away.

Now you’re back to scolding others for not supporting the team financially.

And thanks for letting us know that in your opinion the players are “working hard trying to win and be a wild card”, because at least that statement is funny.

Funny say you? You don’t think they’re playing hard trying to earn a wild card berth?