It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:19 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:17 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:14 pm
icon wrote: 31 Jan 2025 22:45 pm Burly will be starved for PAs, especially if Arenado is still here. Gorman and Walker are going to get their PAs. Burly will get the scraps, maybe a bit more if Walker, Donovan or Contreras gets hurt.
Not staved enough. How I wish your prediction was correct.
Yep. Hasn’t been the case. Dude Is eating at the head table
It's his spot to lose, that's for sure.
If his continual failure to drive in runner's doesn't result in a loss of PA's, not sure what it will take?

I mean, game after game Burly is failing to drive in a multitude of base runners. His SLG% now sits at .295. That's not mediocre...it's awful! Yet he keeps hitting 5th!
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Mort Gage wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:11 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
I don't recall "most posters" writing that. What people posted was that a 104 OPS+, 41 XBH, and 78 RBI in 595 PA is not the amazing feat you believe it is. Especially for a guy who can't run or field. I have no idea how productive Gorman and Walker will be this season.
It seems most posters might feel that kinda might be sort of a feeling they could have
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:58 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:19 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:17 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:14 pm
icon wrote: 31 Jan 2025 22:45 pm Burly will be starved for PAs, especially if Arenado is still here. Gorman and Walker are going to get their PAs. Burly will get the scraps, maybe a bit more if Walker, Donovan or Contreras gets hurt.
Not staved enough. How I wish your prediction was correct.
Yep. Hasn’t been the case. Dude Is eating at the head table
It's his spot to lose, that's for sure.
If his continual failure to drive in runner's doesn't result in a loss of PA's, not sure what it will take?

I mean, game after game Burly is failing to drive in a multitude of base runners. His SLG% now sits at .295. That's not mediocre...it's awful! Yet he keeps hitting 5th!
They obviously see something in him we don’t…..
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Not trading Burleson is one of the top crimes committed by the team last offseason.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:05 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:58 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:19 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:17 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 20 Apr 2025 12:14 pm
icon wrote: 31 Jan 2025 22:45 pm Burly will be starved for PAs, especially if Arenado is still here. Gorman and Walker are going to get their PAs. Burly will get the scraps, maybe a bit more if Walker, Donovan or Contreras gets hurt.
Not staved enough. How I wish your prediction was correct.
Yep. Hasn’t been the case. Dude Is eating at the head table
It's his spot to lose, that's for sure.
If his continual failure to drive in runner's doesn't result in a loss of PA's, not sure what it will take?

I mean, game after game Burly is failing to drive in a multitude of base runners. His SLG% now sits at .295. That's not mediocre...it's awful! Yet he keeps hitting 5th!
They obviously see something in him we don’t…..
Ha, that’s scary. A scout team that sees ghosts.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Looks like none of them is producing currently. 20 games under here we come!
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
Nice call, Nostradumbass!!!!
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:10 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:06 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.
The Cardinals organization and expert analysts seem to REALLY like Burleson. Regardless of what pseudo, wannabe experts on CT think. That's just the way it is. Sorry.
Sorry Shady, but it looks like I knew a helluva lot more than the expert analysts when it comes to Alice Burleson!

That's just the way it is!
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 30 Apr 2025 22:31 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:10 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:06 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.
The Cardinals organization and expert analysts seem to REALLY like Burleson. Regardless of what pseudo, wannabe experts on CT think. That's just the way it is. Sorry.
Sorry Shady, but it looks like I knew a helluva lot more than the expert analysts when it comes to Alice Burleson!

That's just the way it is!
It feels like you should mix in a water.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:27 pm
Pura Vida wrote: 30 Jan 2025 16:24 pm
Shady wrote: 30 Jan 2025 15:57 pm In the upcoming season. Heck, I'd be happy if both Walker and Gorman produce like Burleson did last season. Especially, driving in runs. 78 RBIs from both Walker and Gorman would be very helpful to the team.
Burleson is a keeper to me. His natural ability to hit will only get better and he can hurt you in more ways that one, with the bat. His glove will continue to improve.
Burleson is a heckuva lot better first baseman than many seem to feel. He'd be fine there if it don't work out for Contreras.
No he wouldn't. You need power from 1B. 20-30 per year. Burly makes contact enough to where he needs to regain that stroke. He's a singles hitter now.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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I's like to hear Brant Brown and Alec Burleson discuss what's going on with Burly's hitting. It seems to me he could use some time at Memphis to regroup.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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All three are "meh"

Bumbles needs to be a throw in as part of any deal made mid season, he's a powerless back of the bench player

Gorman better start making better contact or he could be headed back to Memphis

Walker is starting to look like a lost cause as far as being the player most thought he'd be and could be on his last leg w/the Cardinals here in 2025 if C. Bloom decides to move on.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 01 May 2025 08:49 am I's like to hear Brant Brown and Alec Burleson discuss what's going on with Burly's hitting. It seems to me he could use LOTS of time at Memphis to regroup.
Fixed it for you.
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