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That isn’t a salary dump.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:39 pmHelsley was making 8.2mil…..Cards won’t be paying 2.706ml…..seems like a pretty good dump to me. Especially when BDW is getting quite a good rep for being a tight (donkey).Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
Quinc I get itQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
Your six word first sentence says it all!!! LOLQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
The point is getting a chance at something instead of guaranteed nothing.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:54 pmQuinc I get itQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
NA is a dump
Gray would be a dump
Contreras is a dump
But considering this current ownership and to think ole BDW isn’t giddy about not paying 2.706mil for the remainder of season then you aint been paying attention.
2 yrs from now we could be wondering where those 3 guys are that they got for RH because they don’t seem to be on a fast track
So again my question was, whats the point if you can’t get a stud??
If you have so much hope in the 3 prospects
Perhaps have that same hope that this team goes on a 18 game winning streak and makes playoffs…..might need RH
Cuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:56 pmYour six word first sentence says it all!!! LOLQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
Guaranteed Nothing??Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:56 pmThe point is getting a chance at something instead of guaranteed nothing.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:54 pmQuinc I get itQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
NA is a dump
Gray would be a dump
Contreras is a dump
But considering this current ownership and to think ole BDW isn’t giddy about not paying 2.706mil for the remainder of season then you aint been paying attention.
2 yrs from now we could be wondering where those 3 guys are that they got for RH because they don’t seem to be on a fast track
So again my question was, whats the point if you can’t get a stud??
If you have so much hope in the 3 prospects
Perhaps have that same hope that this team goes on a 18 game winning streak and makes playoffs…..might need RH
I didn’t post to YOU.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:04 pmCuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:56 pmYour six word first sentence says it all!!! LOLQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying
I ask both you and QuincCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:09 pmI didn’t post to YOU.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:04 pmCuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:56 pmYour six word first sentence says it all!!! LOLQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying
I commented to ANOTHER poster on his post.
I thought that was the purpose of a talk forum?
And you of all people mentioning “crying” makes my day!
Yes I believe that is the stipulation.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:12 pmI ask both you and QuincCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:09 pmI didn’t post to YOU.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:04 pmCuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:56 pmYour six word first sentence says it all!!! LOLQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying
I commented to ANOTHER poster on his post.
I thought that was the purpose of a talk forum?
And you of all people mentioning “crying” makes my day!
If Cards had extended a QO to Helsley would they receive a draft pick if he signed elsewhere?
They got 3 decent prospects for a 2-month rental. I'm sure they took the best deal that was offered. And the Cardinals can always sign Helsley back in the winter if they want.
The QO will be $20M+ and the Cards would have been idiots to offer it. Helsley would have accepted, and the Cardinals would again look like idiots having an $20M+ closer on a rebuilding team.
Well if they only received back minor league fill, then keeping RH if he accepted QO or receiving draft pick would seem the better way to go.Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:16 pmYes I believe that is the stipulation.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:12 pmI ask both you and QuincCusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:09 pmI didn’t post to YOU.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:04 pmCuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….Cusecards wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:56 pmYour six word first sentence says it all!!! LOLQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:48 pmThere is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:46 pmBut if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:42 pmA salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.Goldfan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 20:34 pmDoesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying
I commented to ANOTHER poster on his post.
I thought that was the purpose of a talk forum?
And you of all people mentioning “crying” makes my day!
If Cards had extended a QO to Helsley would they receive a draft pick if he signed elsewhere?
What is your point.....assuming you actually have one other than whining???
The Cardinals are philosophically opposed to selling high. DeWitt is an eternal optomist.cardstatman wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 21:18 pm I'm just going to say, "I told you so" to all those (apparently including the Cards FO) who didn't want to trade Fedde and Helsley during the offseason because they would be just as valuable at the trade deadline as they were during the offseason.
Not anywhere close.
