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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:39 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
Helsley was making 8.2mil…..Cards won’t be paying 2.706ml…..seems like a pretty good dump to me. Especially when BDW is getting quite a good rep for being a tight (donkey).
That isn’t a salary dump.
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Quinc I get it
NA is a dump
Gray would be a dump
Contreras is a dump
But considering this current ownership and to think ole BDW isn’t giddy about not paying 2.706mil for the remainder of season then you aint been paying attention.
2 yrs from now we could be wondering where those 3 guys are that they got for RH because they don’t seem to be on a fast track
So again my question was, whats the point if you can’t get a stud??
If you have so much hope in the 3 prospects
Perhaps have that same hope that this team goes on a 18 game winning streak and makes playoffs…..might need RH
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Your six word first sentence says it all!!! LOL
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:54 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Quinc I get it
NA is a dump
Gray would be a dump
Contreras is a dump
But considering this current ownership and to think ole BDW isn’t giddy about not paying 2.706mil for the remainder of season then you aint been paying attention.
2 yrs from now we could be wondering where those 3 guys are that they got for RH because they don’t seem to be on a fast track
So again my question was, whats the point if you can’t get a stud??
If you have so much hope in the 3 prospects
Perhaps have that same hope that this team goes on a 18 game winning streak and makes playoffs…..might need RH
The point is getting a chance at something instead of guaranteed nothing.
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:56 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Your six word first sentence says it all!!! LOL
Cuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying :lol: :lol:
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Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:56 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:54 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Quinc I get it
NA is a dump
Gray would be a dump
Contreras is a dump
But considering this current ownership and to think ole BDW isn’t giddy about not paying 2.706mil for the remainder of season then you aint been paying attention.
2 yrs from now we could be wondering where those 3 guys are that they got for RH because they don’t seem to be on a fast track
So again my question was, whats the point if you can’t get a stud??
If you have so much hope in the 3 prospects
Perhaps have that same hope that this team goes on a 18 game winning streak and makes playoffs…..might need RH
The point is getting a chance at something instead of guaranteed nothing.
Guaranteed Nothing??
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:04 pm
Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:56 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Your six word first sentence says it all!!! LOL
Cuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying :lol: :lol:
I didn’t post to YOU.
I commented to ANOTHER poster on his post.
I thought that was the purpose of a talk forum?
And you of all people mentioning “crying” makes my day!
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Re: BREAKING: HELSLEY TO METS!!!

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Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:09 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:04 pm
Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:56 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Your six word first sentence says it all!!! LOL
Cuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying :lol: :lol:
I didn’t post to YOU.
I commented to ANOTHER poster on his post.
I thought that was the purpose of a talk forum?
And you of all people mentioning “crying” makes my day!
I ask both you and Quinc
If Cards had extended a QO to Helsley would they receive a draft pick if he signed elsewhere?
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:12 pm
Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:09 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:04 pm
Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:56 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Your six word first sentence says it all!!! LOL
Cuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying :lol: :lol:
I didn’t post to YOU.
I commented to ANOTHER poster on his post.
I thought that was the purpose of a talk forum?
And you of all people mentioning “crying” makes my day!
I ask both you and Quinc
If Cards had extended a QO to Helsley would they receive a draft pick if he signed elsewhere?
Yes I believe that is the stipulation.
What is your point.....assuming you actually have one other than whining???
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Baseball Savant wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:23 pm Underwhelming return
They got 3 decent prospects for a 2-month rental. I'm sure they took the best deal that was offered. And the Cardinals can always sign Helsley back in the winter if they want.
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I'm just going to say, "I told you so" to all those (apparently including the Cards FO) who didn't want to trade Fedde and Helsley during the offseason because they would be just as valuable at the trade deadline as they were during the offseason.

Not anywhere close.

:x
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:12 pmI ask both you and Quinc
If Cards had extended a QO to Helsley would they receive a draft pick if he signed elsewhere?
The QO will be $20M+ and the Cards would have been idiots to offer it. Helsley would have accepted, and the Cardinals would again look like idiots having an $20M+ closer on a rebuilding team.
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Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:16 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:12 pm
Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:09 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:04 pm
Cusecards wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:56 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:48 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:46 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:42 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 30 Jul 2025 19:43 pm
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:47 pm
ClassicO wrote: 30 Jul 2025 18:44 pm Not at all what I was hoping for. Bohm looks ok but he's in A+ ball.
So the most tradeable piece returned some A ball maybees
What the point of this
Salary dump??
Doesn’t seem like you know what a salary dump is.
Doesn’t it?? Please explain it for me would ya
A salary dump is motivated by dumping salary.

They traded Helsley to add to the farm system before he goes to free agency.
But if they don’t receive much of anything in return…..TBD…..what’s the motivating factor? One could hypothesize 2+ mil AND easier not to re-sign if hes already gone…..yes dumping salary….
There is no hope for you. Go ahead and call it a kumquat.
Your six word first sentence says it all!!! LOL
Cuse buddy……and I thought we had a truce….
And if I give you the business for being a wiseaker……you’ll start crying :lol: :lol:
I didn’t post to YOU.
I commented to ANOTHER poster on his post.
I thought that was the purpose of a talk forum?
And you of all people mentioning “crying” makes my day!
I ask both you and Quinc
If Cards had extended a QO to Helsley would they receive a draft pick if he signed elsewhere?
Yes I believe that is the stipulation.
What is your point.....assuming you actually have one other than whining???
Well if they only received back minor league fill, then keeping RH if he accepted QO or receiving draft pick would seem the better way to go.
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cardstatman wrote: 30 Jul 2025 21:18 pm I'm just going to say, "I told you so" to all those (apparently including the Cards FO) who didn't want to trade Fedde and Helsley during the offseason because they would be just as valuable at the trade deadline as they were during the offseason.

Not anywhere close.

:x
The Cardinals are philosophically opposed to selling high. DeWitt is an eternal optomist. :)
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