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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:43 pm
by craviduce
Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:40 pm
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:27 pm
Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm
renostl wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?
It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote
Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision
for top end? It's not a very good year. For 20-60 in the draft, it's a very good year .

Anderson, Doyle, and Arnold wouldn't go in the top 15 last year....probably not Top 25 for 2 of them. SMith and Burns were very good, and Clinjeje and Yesavage were very good.....those 4 beat all 3 of the top LHP this year.
But we are talking the 5 pick.
Not 30 or 40.
If one of the top 3 starting pitchers (college) is on the board, that is the best option for where the organization is at right now.
They need to restock the rotation and waiting 5 or 6 years for a HS kid - position or pitcher- with huge risks, simply makes no sense.
As you say, the team can look later in the draft for a college bat - that opportunity will be there.
There is no logical basis for skipping over a top 3 college starter
That said, I know we agree that all first round picks are pure projection and none are guaranteed.
As I recall, some high school 3B named Walker was considered the best power hitting draft prospect in the entire draft a few years back ...
yeah...those HS kids are probably better than the College Kids...but it's a gamble. Teams aren't comfortale with gambles. And lord knows, the Cards probably don't have the coaching and infrastructure to support some of those HS players.

but it ISN'T a VERY GOOD crop of college players up top....not at all.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:48 pm
by Carp4Cy
So does the pick clock actually start at 5, or will there be another 30 mins of cerimony's and (bleep)? Need to do something for my wife and wondering how long I really have? Or how long before we get to pick 5?

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:50 pm
by craviduce
Carp4Cy wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:48 pm So does the pick clock actually start at 5, or will there be another 30 mins of cerimony's and (bleep)? Need to do something for my wife and wondering how long I really have? Or how long before we get to pick 5?
I think there's a short speech by the Commissioner?

I'm not rightly sure, Carp4

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:52 pm
by craviduce
watching MLB now....I like Aloy also, but we're drafting too high

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:56 pm
by tyoung12290
I want appenzzeller or Marcus Phillips with our #55

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:57 pm
by RunSup
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:52 pm watching MLB now....I like Aloy also, but we're drafting too high
I am watching MLB also. Wondering about ESPNs coverage.

Without a CB picking between 1st and 2nd rounds we miss on Aloy and Young.

Jacob Parker at #55?

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:58 pm
by AZ_Cardsfan
ESPN on TV. Check
Popcorn. Check
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GAME ON.


Yeah in probably 30 minutes but I'm jelly. :D

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:58 pm
by craviduce
RunSup wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:57 pm
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:52 pm watching MLB now....I like Aloy also, but we're drafting too high
I am watching MLB also. Wondering about ESPNs coverage.

Without a CB picking between 1st and 2nd rounds we miss on Aloy and Young.

Jacob Parker at #55?
I don't know....we can get him at 89...probably

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 16:59 pm
by RunSup
Carp4Cy wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:48 pm So does the pick clock actually start at 5, or will there be another 30 mins of cerimony's and (bleep)? Need to do something for my wife and wondering how long I really have? Or how long before we get to pick 5?
I got the lawn mowed during the rain delay because of the draft. It wasn't raining here.

Good luck. All honey-do's are paused right now.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 17:00 pm
by craviduce
https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker Love the draft tracker...easy to follow the picks and look up others.

if you need to view the draft, it's on front page of MLB.com ...and on MLBnetwork

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 17:01 pm
by cardini99
It’s go time! Am excited to get this thing started!

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 17:02 pm
by craviduce
cardini99 wrote: 13 Jul 2025 17:01 pm It’s go time! Am excited to get this thing started!
amen.

I pray we do well on Night 1.... 4 picks

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 17:03 pm
by cardini99
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 17:02 pm
cardini99 wrote: 13 Jul 2025 17:01 pm It’s go time! Am excited to get this thing started!
amen.

I pray we do well on Night 1.... 4 picks
100%

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 17:03 pm
by craviduce
put your trackers on Current Round... or refresh.

LOL

I was frozen

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 17:03 pm
by An Old Friend
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:52 pm watching MLB now....I like Aloy also, but we're drafting too high
Agreed.

I voted JoJo in your poll.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 13 Jul 2025 17:04 pm
by renostl
Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm
renostl wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?
It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote
Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision
Of course you are not any more wrong in
the attempt to predict the future.

To me you project each player. If it’s a pitcher and you are picking this high that individual pitcher should project as a #1 or #2 otherwise how much superior is that over what may be there in round 2?

If the Cards don't see a 1 or 2 left when they pick at #5
my hope would be for the best bat. I fully understand and appreciate that #3-#5 are needed too.