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TBone
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DawgDad wrote: 05 Mar 2025 14:59 pm Some posters complain about the salary overpayment apparently not realizing that is effectively additional acquisition cost from the Blues perspective AND at that they were still bargains!
Absolutely. Draft picks have a monetary value as well as a risk quotient that they may never pan out.

Army essentially paid to bypass the risk and minor league process to add two young, ready to play and produce players to their core.

This will go down as one of the best moves Armstrong ever made.
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TBone wrote: 06 Mar 2025 08:50 am
Absolutely. Draft picks have a monetary value as well as a risk quotient that they may never pan out.

Army essentially paid to bypass the risk and minor league process to add two young, ready to play and produce players to their core.

This will go down as one of the best moves Armstrong ever made.
These are former first rounders now playing like former first rounders.
Would anyone here now trade either of them for a top ten protected first rounder? Not me.
These numbers are really solid for 23 year old players, particularly the +- on a mushy middle team.
Holly 20G 26A +11
Bro 6G 15A +11
That neither cost us a first round pick is stunning at this point given their performance this year.
This move definitely accelerated the retool. We'd be in the bottom 10 for sure without these 2.
How sweet it would be to sneak into the playoffs.
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I’m not sure I’d trade either one for a 5-10 pick. I’m really impressed with both and can’t wait to see how they improve over the next 2-3 years.
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The offer sheets are going to be up there as some of Army's best moves as GM.

JayBo trade
ROR trade
Trading Rundblad for the pick that became Tarasenko (I accept this was a couple of days before he officially became GM but I still count it)
Offer sheets.
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Talk amongst yourselves.
Gotta love him.
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Too bad old Rollin' got banned.
For the better, I guess.
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somni wrote: 18 Mar 2025 21:30 pm Too bad old Rollin' got banned.
For the better, I guess.
All Broberg had to do to have a successful season, according to him, was to be a + player. And he was still convinced it was impossible. :lol:
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I heard a national writer early this season describe Holloway as a Jaden Schwartz with a better shot. Pretty accurate but I think he’s faster too.
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tubastarr wrote: 18 Mar 2025 21:38 pm I heard a national writer early this season describe Holloway as a Jaden Schwartz with a better shot. Pretty accurate but I think he’s faster too.
I think Kyrou is the only skater on this team faster than Holloway or Broberg.
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Just heard DH with 46 points in 47 games since Monty took over. I don't think he's played that many since Bannister fired though. Must have misheard.
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But he’d be on the Edmonton 4th line according to Oiler fans just ansk any of those esteemed hockey geniuses. :)
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2forDiving wrote: 18 Mar 2025 21:51 pm But he’d be on the Edmonton 4th line according to Oiler fans just ansk any of those esteemed hockey geniuses. :)
And, maybe he would be. Point is, in STL, he got an opportunity he probably wouldn’t have gotten in Edmonton. As far as the overpayment, if he had been a pick of the Blues and performed to this level, he’d probably be getting the same money as RFA.
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He has made that 2nd line a dangerous line. I also think he has a positive influence on Kyrou. Probably him and Schenn do.
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Red7 wrote: 18 Mar 2025 22:37 pm
2forDiving wrote: 18 Mar 2025 21:51 pm But he’d be on the Edmonton 4th line according to Oiler fans just ansk any of those esteemed hockey geniuses. :)
And, maybe he would be. Point is, in STL, he got an opportunity he probably wouldn’t have gotten in Edmonton. As far as the overpayment, if he had been a pick of the Blues and performed to this level, he’d probably be getting the same money as RFA.
Hard to tell but if you read EDM threads over at HOF or randomly on Twitter (yeah, I know, not the best source for much) they sure miss the guy. The number of snarky "sure, we don't need Holloway when we are busy trying to figure out who to play with McDavid and Leon and scratching this guy one night and that guy the next" that have appeared, especially since the first of the year are constant. There is no way this version of Holloway is a 4th liner anywhere.
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sign em both for 6x6 right now and don't even blink
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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 19 Mar 2025 09:21 am sign em both for 6x6 right now and don't even blink
Exactly. Two very good players. Definately what you want.
Crazy Broberg and Holloway were the two best prospects in Edmonton. Edmonton has almost nothing in their system.
Very decimated farm system. When they lose again this year--then what? Matthew Savoie is the top prospect now.
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