If you felt particularly passionate you could embed it on as many threads as possible. Make a manifesto out of it.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:06 amIt’s a good example of a thread constructed on a mere random thought. It works.ecleme22 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:00 amIt’s a very complain-y whine-y OP based on zero evidence.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:53 amI understand. The thread was constructed very simply. I’d expect it will drive the direction in which it is received.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:46 amThat's why this thread should be mocked. Hence the use of the word insightfulsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:36 amAll teams are stuck with several players. Contract wise. Both time and money. I’d think all have players others don’t want.
As for mocking, you know me, I’ll do it in jest, in lyrics. Saves me unnecessary jargon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now, if the OP made it all about Arenado, he could have a point and open up an interesting convo.
But he’s just pouting Bloom made not trades at the winter meetings. But of course that doesn’t mean “no teams want cards players boo hoo.”
The content and context will determine its demise.
If it were me, and I had to publish it, I’d probably find an existing thread to embed it with.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Some do. I’d prefer to have my say, and it go away.C-Unit wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:37 amIf you felt particularly passionate you could embed it on as many threads as possible. Make a manifesto out of it.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:06 amIt’s a good example of a thread constructed on a mere random thought. It works.ecleme22 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:00 amIt’s a very complain-y whine-y OP based on zero evidence.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:53 amI understand. The thread was constructed very simply. I’d expect it will drive the direction in which it is received.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:46 amThat's why this thread should be mocked. Hence the use of the word insightfulsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 07:36 amAll teams are stuck with several players. Contract wise. Both time and money. I’d think all have players others don’t want.
As for mocking, you know me, I’ll do it in jest, in lyrics. Saves me unnecessary jargon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now, if the OP made it all about Arenado, he could have a point and open up an interesting convo.
But he’s just pouting Bloom made not trades at the winter meetings. But of course that doesn’t mean “no teams want cards players boo hoo.”
The content and context will determine its demise.
If it were me, and I had to publish it, I’d probably find an existing thread to embed it with.
But a manifesto- The Bulldog Barker, has some “bite.”
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
DittoCusecards wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:21 amLive on the East Coast and only been to Busch once.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:14 amI've done that many times too cuse, even after the TV show "jumped the shark".Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:05 amLook...I get the frustration. 3 years missing the post season from an organization that has prided itself in competing on a yearly basis!rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:55 amDittoCusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 14:44 pmYesrockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:32 pmI'm a big fan of the D. May signing too cuse, we just need him to stay healthy!Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:20 pmAgreerockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm Huh?
15+ teams after Donny
6+ teams reportedly after JoJo
WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot
Gray already gone
Patience OR
I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
The trades will come but Bloom isn't going to take just any offer, he's rightfully holding all the cards (bad pun) and he knows it.
Patience is the key, stay cool & let other POBO/GM's get antsy to satisfy their screaming for trades fan bases.
And I’ve been chuckling over all the angst concerning the Winter Meetings.
What teams actually did much of anything?
I think the whinners are all suffering from Mo hangover.![]()
I’m a sports fan and I root passionately for many other teams in many other sports.
But I still try to keep it as entertainment.
Refuse to let it make me miserable.
Here’s an analogy Rock:
*You’re a long time fan of a TV show.
*Recently the show has gone down hill in quality.
*If you can still enjoy the show...fine. But would you keep watching if it made you miserable?
And yes....It was time for a FO change. We got that!
To me MO is an afterthought.
I bleed Cardinals red come he ll or high water and put my money where my mouth is w/season tixs for over a decade.
If I lived there I would still go despite the downturn in results.
I’ll probably catch some flak for my comments Rock....but my stance on my Cards fandom is totally personal.
I am in no way telling other fans how they should feel.
I understand the frustration given our long history of success.
But if you grew up in the 70's like did, then you've seen worse.
Once we get into the holiday season, I can't wait for STing to open!
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:30 amI can relate.Goldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
My attempt at humor.AnExParrot wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:07 amsikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:30 amI can relate.Goldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.![]()
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
You would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
It'd be fun to see him try to buy a used car.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:16 amYou would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Yea “I’ll pay whatever you want so no one else can buy it!”AnExParrot wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:21 amIt'd be fun to see him try to buy a used car.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:16 amYou would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.![]()
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Is this the same OZ who declared “No movement until winter meeting” when I called out Bloom for doing nothing……and then the next day Gray was traded to Sox?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:22 amYea “I’ll pay whatever you want so no one else can buy it!”AnExParrot wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:21 amIt'd be fun to see him try to buy a used car.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:16 amYou would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.![]()
And then the Winter Meetings came and went…….and nothing happened…..
But never hesitant to criticize…….glorious. Self aware much??
Do you ever count how many times you’re WRONG
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Was I reading that “SKubal and Marte were on fire”. Or “Bloom has a stable of highly sought after Players” OR “17 teams in hunt for Donny”Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:16 amYou would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
Were those things being plastered all over the internets about SKubal?? There was a story about him going to Dodgers…….
Y’all are funny
“Bloom waiting for Winter Meeting Meetings”….”Don’t Rush things”, back in Nov
Now week after Winter Meetings…..not a (bleep) thing happened…..its still “do you want to take the first offer”
Answer me this…..how long does it take from early-mid Nov til NOW to put together an offer for an “ON FIRE” player???
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Red, every team has many players no one wants for the price the team expects in return. That's why the GMs play Let's Make a DealOldRed wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:22 amMaybe not for what the Cardinals expect in return.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 11:20 am They have at least one contract that no one wants, but the players have a market.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Outside of Arenado, who has zero value?
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Absolutely on the 70’s!rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 10:49 amDittoCusecards wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:21 amLive on the East Coast and only been to Busch once.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:14 amI've done that many times too cuse, even after the TV show "jumped the shark".Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:05 amLook...I get the frustration. 3 years missing the post season from an organization that has prided itself in competing on a yearly basis!rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 08:55 amDittoCusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 14:44 pmYesrockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:32 pmI'm a big fan of the D. May signing too cuse, we just need him to stay healthy!Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 13:20 pmAgreerockondlouie wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025 12:56 pm Huh?
15+ teams after Donny
6+ teams reportedly after JoJo
WillyC drawing attention, even an injured Noot
Gray already gone
Patience OR
I for one am glad C. Bloom is taking his time, sticking to his trade demands and not rushing a trade just to quiet some disgruntled fans.
I get that fans have questions and want action.
But....it is December 15th after all.
And....I get the excitement over the Winter Meetings which can be the start of trading frenzy but every year is different.
Sometimes the “Market” just takes more time to develop and again it is early.
So far I’m optimistic about what Bloom has done. But just getting started.
I really like the May signing and BTW I’m not predicting anything as to him performing.
I just like his stuff and only committing to a one year deal!
The trades will come but Bloom isn't going to take just any offer, he's rightfully holding all the cards (bad pun) and he knows it.
Patience is the key, stay cool & let other POBO/GM's get antsy to satisfy their screaming for trades fan bases.
And I’ve been chuckling over all the angst concerning the Winter Meetings.
What teams actually did much of anything?
I think the whinners are all suffering from Mo hangover.![]()
I’m a sports fan and I root passionately for many other teams in many other sports.
But I still try to keep it as entertainment.
Refuse to let it make me miserable.
Here’s an analogy Rock:
*You’re a long time fan of a TV show.
*Recently the show has gone down hill in quality.
*If you can still enjoy the show...fine. But would you keep watching if it made you miserable?
And yes....It was time for a FO change. We got that!
To me MO is an afterthought.
I bleed Cardinals red come he ll or high water and put my money where my mouth is w/season tixs for over a decade.
If I lived there I would still go despite the downturn in results.
I’ll probably catch some flak for my comments Rock....but my stance on my Cards fandom is totally personal.
I am in no way telling other fans how they should feel.
I understand the frustration given our long history of success.
But if you grew up in the 70's like did, then you've seen worse.
Once we get into the holiday season, I can't wait for STing to open!
I was passionate and after the success of the 60’s the 70’s were a bit rough.
But we obviously survived and no matter how frustrated I got back then each new season brought renewed hope.
Applying the same logic to the present.
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
You’re hilarious you were whining and crying as soon as the offseason ended because he hadn’t made a trade comparing him to mo then he traded gray and you were back on team bloom for like a week or two now you’re back to whining and crying saying no one wants Donovan or Contreras or Jo Jo and all the media is lying then when another trade goes down you will shut up for a few days then start whining and crying. If you don’t think any teams want Jo Jo or Donovan or Contreras then you’re an idiot. And I’ll tell you how long it takes it takes until Booom decides he likes the offer that’s how long it takes. I’m just glad you aren’t the POBO you would have traded everyone already for whatever the other teams offer and would be terribleGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:53 amWas I reading that “SKubal and Marte were on fire”. Or “Bloom has a stable of highly sought after Players” OR “17 teams in hunt for Donny”Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:16 amYou would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
Were those things being plastered all over the internets about SKubal?? There was a story about him going to Dodgers…….
Y’all are funny
“Bloom waiting for Winter Meeting Meetings”….”Don’t Rush things”, back in Nov
Now week after Winter Meetings…..not a (drat) thing happened…..its still “do you want to take the first offer”
Answer me this…..how long does it take from early-mid Nov til NOW to put together an offer for an “ON FIRE” player???
Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
If I were the POBO we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first placeOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 12:43 pmYou’re hilarious you were whining and crying as soon as the offseason ended because he hadn’t made a trade comparing him to mo then he traded gray and you were back on team bloom for like a week or two now you’re back to whining and crying saying no one wants Donovan or Contreras or Jo Jo and all the media is lying then when another trade goes down you will shut up for a few days then start whining and crying. If you don’t think any teams want Jo Jo or Donovan or Contreras then you’re an idiot. And I’ll tell you how long it takes it takes until Booom decides he likes the offer that’s how long it takes. I’m just glad you aren’t the POBO you would have traded everyone already for whatever the other teams offer and would be terribleGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:53 amWas I reading that “SKubal and Marte were on fire”. Or “Bloom has a stable of highly sought after Players” OR “17 teams in hunt for Donny”Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:16 amYou would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
Were those things being plastered all over the internets about SKubal?? There was a story about him going to Dodgers…….
Y’all are funny
“Bloom waiting for Winter Meeting Meetings”….”Don’t Rush things”, back in Nov
Now week after Winter Meetings…..not a (drat) thing happened…..its still “do you want to take the first offer”
Answer me this…..how long does it take from early-mid Nov til NOW to put together an offer for an “ON FIRE” player???
And I’m not criticizing Bloom here….my supposition is that MAYBE our guys weren’t “ON FIRE” like reported in media
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Re: Cardinals may have players no one wants.
Well if he wasn’t on fire he would have been traded already. There were a limited number of teams interested in gray so he was able to be traded quickly. With a lot of teams interested in Donovan it would take longer because there are lot more teams he has to check out their prospects discuss them with his staff run projections take offers make counter proposals I hope he takes his time and gets the best deal he can instead of just taking whatever the other teams are offering like you think he should do. And the way you talk about how things should be done like hurry up and trade everyone to get deals done would have the cardinals in a far worse state than they already are. But once another trade is done you will calm down for a couple of days before you start ramping up the complaints and conspiracy theoriesGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 13:28 pmIf I were the POBO we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first placeOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 12:43 pmYou’re hilarious you were whining and crying as soon as the offseason ended because he hadn’t made a trade comparing him to mo then he traded gray and you were back on team bloom for like a week or two now you’re back to whining and crying saying no one wants Donovan or Contreras or Jo Jo and all the media is lying then when another trade goes down you will shut up for a few days then start whining and crying. If you don’t think any teams want Jo Jo or Donovan or Contreras then you’re an idiot. And I’ll tell you how long it takes it takes until Booom decides he likes the offer that’s how long it takes. I’m just glad you aren’t the POBO you would have traded everyone already for whatever the other teams offer and would be terribleGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:53 amWas I reading that “SKubal and Marte were on fire”. Or “Bloom has a stable of highly sought after Players” OR “17 teams in hunt for Donny”Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 11:16 amYou would be a terrible GM then lol. And by your bizarre logic I guess no one wants skubal or marte since neither of those have been traded yetGoldfan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2025 09:24 am This is MO…..so show me
There was player movement at Winter Meetings…..none of the Cards “Highly Sought After On Fire” names moved….
So what else do we have to go on.
Ya’ll read notes from scribes who we know get fed propaganda from the top and you believe like it like it’s gospel….
You believe “reporters”…..some of us believe what we see
If I’m a team and I really WANT Donny….I give Bloom the offer I know will land him so no other team gets him. From that point the “On Fire” level degrades to puffs of smoke.
Were those things being plastered all over the internets about SKubal?? There was a story about him going to Dodgers…….
Y’all are funny
“Bloom waiting for Winter Meeting Meetings”….”Don’t Rush things”, back in Nov
Now week after Winter Meetings…..not a (drat) thing happened…..its still “do you want to take the first offer”
Answer me this…..how long does it take from early-mid Nov til NOW to put together an offer for an “ON FIRE” player???![]()
And I’m not criticizing Bloom here….my supposition is that MAYBE our guys weren’t “ON FIRE” like reported in media![]()