Harry York 37 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:28 pm
Its the lack of assists that tells the "Lack of compete" tale, in my opinion.
I've said several times, "Any savant with little to no compete can find an open spot to rifle a snipe in every other playoff game". That is Kyrou's contribution, entirely, from his last and best two playoff appearances.
There is much more to gutting out a bitter playoff round... much more in surviving the abuse of three or four series than popping in a beauty every other game.
Two assists in 28 playoff games. You kind of have to try to get so few.
Has he turned the corner? I surely hope so.
If scoring is that easy, why didn’t more of our guys do it? Thomas? Buch? Bueller? Anyone?
You are missing the point in a few ways.
First, to answer your question... Many DID.
Perron and O'Reilly had as many or even more goals and both collected more assists in the 2022 Playoffs. Kyrou collected both of his all-time assists in those 12 games
Neither were minus players but JK was a Minus 4.
Last year, Nathan Walker had as many goals, more assists, and added FAR more to the series than Kyrou.
Nathan Walker, Netboy....
Buchy led all scorers in the playoff scoring as he usually does. He had as many goals and as usual had even more assists.
Neither Buchy nor Walker were minus players.
Kyrou had zero assists and was a minus 4.
Next question?
ROR and Perron did not participate for the Blues in last year’s playoffs. Their contributions in the past are irrelevant.
Ooh, you got me with the Walker jab. But didn’t he also have more goals than anyone else on the team? (As did Kyrou)
(My point) Doesn’t that speak to a larger issue yet you continue to focus on ONE guy. I think you’re the one missing the point.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:49 pm
Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"
He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing
His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?
A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:49 pm
Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"
He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing
His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?
A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...
Not sure why that would be. Because he gets some playoff assists - many of them secondary - while getting prime ice time and opportunities with the best players on the team?
He has some strengths but youd agree that assists do not equal hockey IQ yes?
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dhsux wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:37 pm
Bashing Walker to try to prove a point.
I'll let that speak for itself.
Your take is too sour.
I was praising Walker- didnt he lead the team in plus minus as well as in goals?
If you paid attention, I was answering netboy's query "Why doesn't everyone score goals like Kyrou".
Nathan Walker surely did and was far more valuable... only four months ago.
Your quote:
Last year, Nathan Walker had as many goals, more assists, and added FAR more to the series than Kyrou.
Nathan Walker, Netboy....
You call that a compliment to Walker? A Praise?
The double check that Netboy understood it was 'lil ol "Walker"?
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:49 pm
Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"
He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing
His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?
A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...
Not sure why that would be. Because he gets some playoff assists - many of them secondary - while getting prime ice time and opportunities with the best players on the team?
He has some strengths but youd agree that assists do not equal hockey IQ yes?
Sorry, Buch does not get “some “ playoff assists, he gets “the most “ playoff assists.
You need to correct that.
My point could make sense to you then.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:49 pm
Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"
He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing
His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?
A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...
Not sure why that would be. Because he gets some playoff assists - many of them secondary - while getting prime ice time and opportunities with the best players on the team?
He has some strengths but youd agree that assists do not equal hockey IQ yes?
Sorry, Buch does not get “some “ playoff assists, he gets “the most “ playoff assists.
You need to correct that.
My point could make sense to you then.
If you say so. You see a different player than I do. All good
dhsux wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:37 pm
Bashing Walker to try to prove a point.
I'll let that speak for itself.
Your take is too sour.
I was praising Walker- didnt he lead the team in plus minus as well as in goals?
If you paid attention, I was answering netboy's query "Why doesn't everyone score goals like Kyrou".
Nathan Walker surely did and was far more valuable... only four months ago.
Your quote:
Last year, Nathan Walker had as many goals, more assists, and added FAR more to the series than Kyrou.
Nathan Walker, Netboy....
You call that a compliment to Walker? A Praise?
The double check that Netboy understood it was 'lil ol "Walker"?
Got it.
I don't.
You read it incorrectly. I was as proud as you were, probably more than you because I value what Walker did in last year’s playoffs a LOT more than the effort and compete and output of Kyrou. The fact that Walker outhustled, outhit, and outscored Kyrou was my explanation point of a rebuttal to netboys claim that what Kyrou does is not even attainable by third or fourth line players.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:49 pm
Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"
He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing
His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?
A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...
Not sure why that would be. Because he gets some playoff assists - many of them secondary - while getting prime ice time and opportunities with the best players on the team?
He has some strengths but youd agree that assists do not equal hockey IQ yes?
Sorry, Buch does not get “some “ playoff assists, he gets “the most “ playoff assists.
You need to correct that.
My point could make sense to you then.
If you say so. You see a different player than I do. All good
this is not about vision it is about performance in the playoffs.
No one.
not nobody,
has had a hand in more playoff goals than Pavel Buchnevich since he has been a blue.
It’s more about math than it is about what anyone sees.
You don’t just get lucky and average a point a game in the NHL Playoffs.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 18:49 pm
Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"
He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing
His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?
A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...
Not sure why that would be. Because he gets some playoff assists - many of them secondary - while getting prime ice time and opportunities with the best players on the team?
He has some strengths but youd agree that assists do not equal hockey IQ yes?
Sorry, Buch does not get “some “ playoff assists, he gets “the most “ playoff assists.
You need to correct that.
My point could make sense to you then.
If you say so. You see a different player than I do. All good
this is not about vision it is about performance in the playoffs.
No one.
not nobody,
has had a hand in more playoff goals than Pavel Buchnevich since he has been a blue.
Do you disagree?
I mean I’m not looking at the stats but I’ll take your word for it that’s what they say. The lineup as a whole doesn’t have great playoff stats. But so what? It does not change my view on him.
