Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 06:33 am Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.

Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
ding ding ding - High Em is just another Dewitt stooge
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 20:50 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 15:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:09 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 12:13 pm So Bloom and not Friedman put together the scouting and development staff? Friedman put together one of the best scouting and development staff in MLB after the Dodgers hired him.
SM

Bloom was one of the architects behind what is known as "The Rays Way." He helped them pioneer a strategy that allowed them to draft and develop their stars rather than go out and spend big money to sign them. He did the same with the Red Sox after they hired him to take over as Chief Baseball Officer in 2020. SI.com


https://www.si.com/mlb/cardinals/st-lou ... 0in%202020.

The Philadelphia native began working in player development for the Rays as their assistant director of minor league operations in 2008 and is credited with developing “The Rays Way,” a player development plan that has shaped how Tampa Bay has worked with prospects throughout the last decade.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2019/10 ... ience.html

So yes, it was indeed Bloom and not Friedman who put together first the Rays and then the Sox systems.

Now he's put it into place for the Cardinals, let's hope it's as successful!
Bloom worked for Friedman. Friedman put together one of the best minor league and international scouting and development systems in MLB both and Tampa and Los Angeles. Chaim worked there. In theory learned some things. Didn't work out at Boston for him while LA became much better.

Perhaps Boston was an anomaly and he will turn around the Cardinals but I wouldn't give him as much credit as some are for what happened in Tampa given what Frieman accomplished in LA and Bloom's firing at Boston.
Red Sox farm system:
2019 preseason: 30th out of 30 teams
2024 preseason: 3rd out of 30 teams
It's now the end of the 2025 season. I skeptical of the ability read the minor league tea leaves but 2 years later the Dodgers are #2. Cardinals #9. Boston #14. I'm thinking Friedman had a lot to do with Tampa's success.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/460 ... s-mariners
Sorry to jump on but maybe Bloom learned from Friedman. If he did that could be very good for the Cardinals. Isn’t the Brewers POBO an acolyte of Friedman?
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 27 Sep 2025 14:29 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 20:50 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 15:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:09 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 12:13 pm So Bloom and not Friedman put together the scouting and development staff? Friedman put together one of the best scouting and development staff in MLB after the Dodgers hired him.
SM

Bloom was one of the architects behind what is known as "The Rays Way." He helped them pioneer a strategy that allowed them to draft and develop their stars rather than go out and spend big money to sign them. He did the same with the Red Sox after they hired him to take over as Chief Baseball Officer in 2020. SI.com


https://www.si.com/mlb/cardinals/st-lou ... 0in%202020.

The Philadelphia native began working in player development for the Rays as their assistant director of minor league operations in 2008 and is credited with developing “The Rays Way,” a player development plan that has shaped how Tampa Bay has worked with prospects throughout the last decade.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2019/10 ... ience.html

So yes, it was indeed Bloom and not Friedman who put together first the Rays and then the Sox systems.

Now he's put it into place for the Cardinals, let's hope it's as successful!
Bloom worked for Friedman. Friedman put together one of the best minor league and international scouting and development systems in MLB both and Tampa and Los Angeles. Chaim worked there. In theory learned some things. Didn't work out at Boston for him while LA became much better.

Perhaps Boston was an anomaly and he will turn around the Cardinals but I wouldn't give him as much credit as some are for what happened in Tampa given what Frieman accomplished in LA and Bloom's firing at Boston.
Red Sox farm system:
2019 preseason: 30th out of 30 teams
2024 preseason: 3rd out of 30 teams
It's now the end of the 2025 season. I skeptical of the ability read the minor league tea leaves but 2 years later the Dodgers are #2. Cardinals #9. Boston #14. I'm thinking Friedman had a lot to do with Tampa's success.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/460 ... s-mariners
Sorry to jump on but maybe Bloom learned from Friedman. If he did that could be very good for the Cardinals. Isn’t the Brewers POBO an acolyte of Friedman?
Yes Arnold worked for Friedman. Bloom could be great but all I'm saying is this stuff about Bloom being the sole reason for Tampa's success is not correct.
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

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ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Sep 2025 06:24 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 27 Sep 2025 14:29 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 20:50 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 15:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:09 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 12:13 pm So Bloom and not Friedman put together the scouting and development staff? Friedman put together one of the best scouting and development staff in MLB after the Dodgers hired him.
SM

Bloom was one of the architects behind what is known as "The Rays Way." He helped them pioneer a strategy that allowed them to draft and develop their stars rather than go out and spend big money to sign them. He did the same with the Red Sox after they hired him to take over as Chief Baseball Officer in 2020. SI.com


https://www.si.com/mlb/cardinals/st-lou ... 0in%202020.

The Philadelphia native began working in player development for the Rays as their assistant director of minor league operations in 2008 and is credited with developing “The Rays Way,” a player development plan that has shaped how Tampa Bay has worked with prospects throughout the last decade.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2019/10 ... ience.html

So yes, it was indeed Bloom and not Friedman who put together first the Rays and then the Sox systems.

Now he's put it into place for the Cardinals, let's hope it's as successful!
Bloom worked for Friedman. Friedman put together one of the best minor league and international scouting and development systems in MLB both and Tampa and Los Angeles. Chaim worked there. In theory learned some things. Didn't work out at Boston for him while LA became much better.

Perhaps Boston was an anomaly and he will turn around the Cardinals but I wouldn't give him as much credit as some are for what happened in Tampa given what Frieman accomplished in LA and Bloom's firing at Boston.
Red Sox farm system:
2019 preseason: 30th out of 30 teams
2024 preseason: 3rd out of 30 teams
It's now the end of the 2025 season. I skeptical of the ability read the minor league tea leaves but 2 years later the Dodgers are #2. Cardinals #9. Boston #14. I'm thinking Friedman had a lot to do with Tampa's success.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/460 ... s-mariners
Sorry to jump on but maybe Bloom learned from Friedman. If he did that could be very good for the Cardinals. Isn’t the Brewers POBO an acolyte of Friedman?
Yes Arnold worked for Friedman. Bloom could be great but all I'm saying is this stuff about Bloom being the sole reason for Tampa's success is not correct.
That's more than fair. But than you followed that statement up in your op with " Boston got worse when he left". See how that completely reframes the whole conversation?
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

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2ninr wrote: 28 Sep 2025 06:44 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Sep 2025 06:24 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 27 Sep 2025 14:29 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 20:50 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:07 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 15:47 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:09 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 26 Sep 2025 12:13 pm So Bloom and not Friedman put together the scouting and development staff? Friedman put together one of the best scouting and development staff in MLB after the Dodgers hired him.
SM

Bloom was one of the architects behind what is known as "The Rays Way." He helped them pioneer a strategy that allowed them to draft and develop their stars rather than go out and spend big money to sign them. He did the same with the Red Sox after they hired him to take over as Chief Baseball Officer in 2020. SI.com


https://www.si.com/mlb/cardinals/st-lou ... 0in%202020.

The Philadelphia native began working in player development for the Rays as their assistant director of minor league operations in 2008 and is credited with developing “The Rays Way,” a player development plan that has shaped how Tampa Bay has worked with prospects throughout the last decade.

https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2019/10 ... ience.html

So yes, it was indeed Bloom and not Friedman who put together first the Rays and then the Sox systems.

Now he's put it into place for the Cardinals, let's hope it's as successful!
Bloom worked for Friedman. Friedman put together one of the best minor league and international scouting and development systems in MLB both and Tampa and Los Angeles. Chaim worked there. In theory learned some things. Didn't work out at Boston for him while LA became much better.

Perhaps Boston was an anomaly and he will turn around the Cardinals but I wouldn't give him as much credit as some are for what happened in Tampa given what Frieman accomplished in LA and Bloom's firing at Boston.
Red Sox farm system:
2019 preseason: 30th out of 30 teams
2024 preseason: 3rd out of 30 teams
It's now the end of the 2025 season. I skeptical of the ability read the minor league tea leaves but 2 years later the Dodgers are #2. Cardinals #9. Boston #14. I'm thinking Friedman had a lot to do with Tampa's success.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/460 ... s-mariners
Sorry to jump on but maybe Bloom learned from Friedman. If he did that could be very good for the Cardinals. Isn’t the Brewers POBO an acolyte of Friedman?
Yes Arnold worked for Friedman. Bloom could be great but all I'm saying is this stuff about Bloom being the sole reason for Tampa's success is not correct.
That's more than fair. But than you followed that statement up in your op with " Boston got worse when he left". See how that completely reframes the whole conversation?
Boston is in the playoffs. I think Red Sox fans would argue they got better when Bloom left. I understand the story that Bogaerts and Betts trades were ordered by ownership but if I said they got worse I misspoke - or mistyped.
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?

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Yes pretty sure he is the next GM of Cards

He is leaving Tampa, just announced tonight

This guy was the key to Tampas international successes

Very good hire
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