ESPN Olney: Cards are exchanging names for Helsley

[hugeCardfan]

OK. Sigh. 3 players - two pitchers in A Ball and a SS who doesn't hit. Could have been worse.

[Carp4Cy]

I think the return is going to really disappoint those who think he's bringing back a Top 100 MB prospect, never happening.

Doubt that too .. the Cardinals will look to multiple prospects deal IMO . I would be surprised if a deal is a 1 for 1
Look for two prospects in a teams range of No. 5 thru 20

Let's hope for a bidding war, then they might get those two prospects from a teams 10-20 or one in the 5-9 range?

They got a top 10, and a top 15, and many here are still upset about it. Reality for a guy who "might" pitch 15 - 20 innings for the Mets.

there are 30 teams, so on average a team's 10 is a MLB 300 and a 15 is an MLB 450. In a weak system they might be even lower. This isn't great.

[rockondlouie]

I think the return is going to really disappoint those who think he's bringing back a Top 100 MB prospect, never happening.

Maybe they can work out a handshake to decline the QO if he’s not traded. He’s going to want the multi year contract.

And he's earned one

I'd deal him C4C.........get the prospect(s)............and if BDWJr/Bloom want him back, then negotiate w/him this winter.

he's already come out the other day and said "I would love to sign back here".

Just about every free agent says that they would love to come back what they mean is they will come back if they are the top bidder and the cardinals aren’t going to be remotely close to the top bidder. Cards aren’t investing money in a closer and its stupid to invest in a closer anyway

Stupid?

Wait till you see how many games are blown next year when they don't have one.

lol people said the same thing in 2006 and 2011 when they went to first time closers because other veteran established closers failed. Closers are replaceable. Spending a lot of money on closers is dumb for a team that doesn’t have big payrolls. And teams are hitting like .400 against his fast ball he’s blown more saves already than he did all of last season he’s far from lights out the chances of him regressing even more next season are pretty good stay far away from signing him

[Ronnie Dobbs]

OK. Sigh. 3 players - two pitchers in A Ball and a SS who doesn't hit. Could have been worse.

That SS who doesn't hit has a 123 wRC+ in High A as a 20 year old.

[hugeCardfan]

OK. Sigh. 3 players - two pitchers in A Ball and a SS who doesn't hit. Could have been worse.

That SS who doesn't hit has a 123 wRC+ in High A as a 20 year old.

a paraphrase of what Law said about him:

Infielder Jesus Baez is the most talented of the three prospects the Cardinals received, easily top five in the Mets’ system just on raw tools, but he’s not a very good baseball player. His approach at the plate is just bad, he doesn’t play hard on either side of the ball, and he showed up out of shape this season. He has great bat speed and projects to plus power, although he gets ready so late at the plate, I’m surprised he can get to better velocity. He’(poop) .244/.334/.406 this year in High A as a 20-year-old after spending the first week in Low A, with just a 16.7 percent strikeout rate.

Hard to understand how that projects to 123 wRC+.