Doyle MLB ready?

[JDW]

All right, my friends, answer this question: how many major league players have made the jump from high school or college directly to the majors? Second question: how many of them were pitchers?
Go ahead-I’m listening.

G. Crochett
R. Johnson (Angels , Not the Big Unit)

Also
M. Leake
J. Abbott
D. Dreifort
M. Morgan
T. Conroy

I don't think S. Koufax played minor league ball, neither did D. Winfield, B. Horner, P. Incavelia or J. Olerud.

And who can forget D. Clyde!

I think Veeck jumped Eddie Gaedel right to the show .......................... yes, literally jumped right over him.

[imetsatchelpaige]

It's college baseball guys, not professional baseball.

What he's doing on the mound is not different from what you see college Football and Basketball players doing on the gridiron/court.

He's having fun and his teammates seem to love it.

I hear you. It’s sad but true that good sportsmanship has been largely replaced with taunting and considered fun. I’m betting if he doesn’t start acting like a pro now that he’s a pro, it will inhibit his development.

You guys slay me.
"Bob Gibson never did that!"
You're right-he didn't. He threw at people's heads and intimidated the living cra# out of opposing players.
Bob Gibson also never had a cell phone, cable television, a $1m+ signing bonus or a future lined out for him.
Snap out of it.
This is 2025, not 1965.

[rockondlouie]

I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately

I'm really interested to see if the new C. Bloom/R. Cerfolio team brings up players like JJW & now Doyle at a much faster pace than Mo.

Doyle is already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby.

Let's hope he's dynamite in STing and forces his way onto the OD roster.

At worse he's only at Memphis a short while, kicks a z z and is here before Memorial Day.

I'm interested in seeing how aggressive they are, as well. That said, I do not see a world where this kid breaks opening camp with the 2026 club. Chase burns, who was equally as dynamite and much more polished didn't break camp

You never know tlr

He's a 21 year old with two years of SEC (the best) ball under his belt.

If he kicks a z z this spring, then I see no reason he can't break camp.

If that is the hope, all the more reason to give him 4 starts or so at Springfield in August. He might realistically make it to the majors next year, but breaking camp seems wildly optimistic. He does need some work on his secondary pitches. 3 weeks in Jupiter working with coaches, a few starts at Springfield and then 7-8 starts in Memphis might be enough. But pitchers tend to need some time working on not tipping pitches, working on motion consistency between pitches and really having 3 good pitches to be a major league starter. Getting all that worked out in 10-15 minor league starts seems optimistic. I really think the Cards window should open in 2027. Wetherholdt, Mathews, McGreevy, Crooks and maybe Roby should all have one years experience in the majors to start 2027. Then if Doyle, Bernal and Baez make the team in 2027, the Cards should have graduated the guys who could be stars to the roster in 2027.

Even Misioroski spent 3.5 years in the Brewers minor league system before making his debut this year. He was a year younger when drafted. BTW, how did the Cards miss on him, with him being a MO boy...

Sounds great to me ICC

I'm NOT predicting he'll break camp and be on the OD roster.

Just said if he kicks a z z and they feel he's got the secondary stuff (we know he's got the gas) to get ML hitters out, then he's got a chance to break camp.

IMO he's already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby and McGreevy.

Even if McGreevy is in the 2026 SR, there's still going to be an open slot (Gray, Libby, Pallante, McG, ????).

Is Q. Mathews healthy and ready? Maybe

But w/a great STing you'd have to think twice about Doyle.

Many are saying this kid has the best stuff in this years draft, this isn't something we're use to seeing in a Cardinals pitcher draft pick!

Like JJW, he's TOP SHELF again something we're not use to from our draft picks given how low the Cards have usually drafted the past 25 years.

I think we see a totally different approach from C. Bloom than we saw from Mo, perhaps a bit more willing to push the envelop than the extra cautious Mo?

Can't wait to see what happens next spring w/JJW and Doyle.

[Goldfan]

With the loser chitbums this Cards team is trotting out to the mound to get pummeled…….you idiots are worried that a KID has too much fire, attitude, and might say a naughty word or 2 rather than how long it will take for his superior stuff to start getting the competition out???
WTH is wrong with some of you??
Did you ever read the lips of La Russa and Dunc going at the Chicago, Cincy, Pitt…..dugouts??
What do you think Yadi was saying with mask on or off that provoked countless bench clearing brawls with teams??
And I’m sure you think C. Carpenter was blowing kisses to the runner on base or walking off the mound??
Grow a pair…..or go watch some Geriatric pickle ball match at Forest Park

[TraveledLessRoad]

I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately

I'm really interested to see if the new C. Bloom/R. Cerfolio team brings up players like JJW & now Doyle at a much faster pace than Mo.

Doyle is already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby.

Let's hope he's dynamite in STing and forces his way onto the OD roster.

At worse he's only at Memphis a short while, kicks a z z and is here before Memorial Day.

I'm interested in seeing how aggressive they are, as well. That said, I do not see a world where this kid breaks opening camp with the 2026 club. Chase burns, who was equally as dynamite and much more polished didn't break camp

You never know tlr

He's a 21 year old with two years of SEC (the best) ball under his belt.

If he kicks a z z this spring, then I see no reason he can't break camp.

Look, I am absolutely here for that!

[rockondlouie]

With the loser chitbums this Cards team is trotting out to the mound to get pummeled…….you idiots are worried that a KID has too much fire, attitude, and might say a naughty word or 2 rather than how long it will take for his superior stuff to start getting the competition out???
WTH is wrong with some of you??
Did you ever read the lips of La Russa and Dunc going at the Chicago, Cincy, Pitt…..dugouts??
What do you think Yadi was saying with mask on or off that provoked countless bench clearing brawls with teams??
And I’m sure you think C. Carpenter was blowing kisses to the runner on base or walking off the mound??
Grow a pair…..or go watch some Geriatric pickle ball match at Forest Park

Carp was a beast, opponents hated his fiery personality and we LOVED IT!

I have no concerns about this kid and hope he keeps that fire in his belly.

[rockondlouie]

I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately

I'm really interested to see if the new C. Bloom/R. Cerfolio team brings up players like JJW & now Doyle at a much faster pace than Mo.

Doyle is already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby.

Let's hope he's dynamite in STing and forces his way onto the OD roster.

At worse he's only at Memphis a short while, kicks a z z and is here before Memorial Day.

I'm interested in seeing how aggressive they are, as well. That said, I do not see a world where this kid breaks opening camp with the 2026 club. Chase burns, who was equally as dynamite and much more polished didn't break camp

You never know tlr

He's a 21 year old with two years of SEC (the best) ball under his belt.

If he kicks a z z this spring, then I see no reason he can't break camp.

Look, I am absolutely here for that!

Probably won't happen

But we've never seen a pitching prospect drafted this high before.

I'm interested to see if C. Bloom is more aggressive than Mo and pushes the envelop w/both JJW (seems like a no-brainer) and Doyle being in St. Louis next year if they warrant it.

[CorneliusWolfe]

It's college baseball guys, not professional baseball.

What he's doing on the mound is not different from what you see college Football and Basketball players doing on the gridiron/court.

He's having fun and his teammates seem to love it.

I hear you. It’s sad but true that good sportsmanship has been largely replaced with taunting and considered fun. I’m betting if he doesn’t start acting like a pro now that he’s a pro, it will inhibit his development.

You guys slay me.
"Bob Gibson never did that!"
You're right-he didn't. He threw at people's heads and intimidated the living cra# out of opposing players.
Bob Gibson also never had a cell phone, cable television, a $1m+ signing bonus or a future lined out for him.
Snap out of it.
This is 2025, not 1965.

Well that’s different, lol! I actually wasn’t around during his era and only caught the highlights so maybe I lack some perspective on him. Just hoping he’s more Chris Carpenter and less Carlos Zambrano.

[CorneliusWolfe]

With the loser chitbums this Cards team is trotting out to the mound to get pummeled…….you idiots are worried that a KID has too much fire, attitude, and might say a naughty word or 2 rather than how long it will take for his superior stuff to start getting the competition out???
WTH is wrong with some of you??
Did you ever read the lips of La Russa and Dunc going at the Chicago, Cincy, Pitt…..dugouts??
What do you think Yadi was saying with mask on or off that provoked countless bench clearing brawls with teams??
And I’m sure you think C. Carpenter was blowing kisses to the runner on base or walking off the mound??
Grow a pair…..or go watch some Geriatric pickle ball match at Forest Park

Assertive dominance different than being a (buzz). Don’t care either way about the foul language. Real men don’t skip.

[Goldfan]

With the loser chitbums this Cards team is trotting out to the mound to get pummeled…….you idiots are worried that a KID has too much fire, attitude, and might say a naughty word or 2 rather than how long it will take for his superior stuff to start getting the competition out???
WTH is wrong with some of you??
Did you ever read the lips of La Russa and Dunc going at the Chicago, Cincy, Pitt…..dugouts??
What do you think Yadi was saying with mask on or off that provoked countless bench clearing brawls with teams??
And I’m sure you think C. Carpenter was blowing kisses to the runner on base or walking off the mound??
Grow a pair…..or go watch some Geriatric pickle ball match at Forest Park

Carp was a beast, opponents hated his fiery personality and we LOVED IT!

I have no concerns about this kid and hope he keeps that fire in his belly.

It blows my mind that some of these posters…..the first comment they make about a top 5 pick is that “he’ll have to control his attitude”…..
WHAT???

[Clubmaker2]

I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately

I'm really interested to see if the new C. Bloom/R. Cerfolio team brings up players like JJW & now Doyle at a much faster pace than Mo.

Doyle is already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby.

Let's hope he's dynamite in STing and forces his way onto the OD roster.

At worse he's only at Memphis a short while, kicks a z z and is here before Memorial Day.

I'm interested in seeing how aggressive they are, as well. That said, I do not see a world where this kid breaks opening camp with the 2026 club. Chase burns, who was equally as dynamite and much more polished didn't break camp

You never know tlr

He's a 21 year old with two years of SEC (the best) ball under his belt.

If he kicks a z z this spring, then I see no reason he can't break camp.

If that is the hope, all the more reason to give him 4 starts or so at Springfield in August. He might realistically make it to the majors next year, but breaking camp seems wildly optimistic. He does need some work on his secondary pitches. 3 weeks in Jupiter working with coaches, a few starts at Springfield and then 7-8 starts in Memphis might be enough. But pitchers tend to need some time working on not tipping pitches, working on motion consistency between pitches and really having 3 good pitches to be a major league starter. Getting all that worked out in 10-15 minor league starts seems optimistic. I really think the Cards window should open in 2027. Wetherholdt, Mathews, McGreevy, Crooks and maybe Roby should all have one years experience in the majors to start 2027. Then if Doyle, Bernal and Baez make the team in 2027, the Cards should have graduated the guys who could be stars to the roster in 2027.

Even Misioroski spent 3.5 years in the Brewers minor league system before making his debut this year. He was a year younger when drafted. BTW, how did the Cards miss on him, with him being a MO boy...

Sounds great to me ICC

I'm NOT predicting he'll break camp and be on the OD roster.

Just said if he kicks a z z and they feel he's got the secondary stuff (we know he's got the gas) to get ML hitters out, then he's got a chance to break camp.

IMO he's already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby and McGreevy.

Even if McGreevy is in the 2026 SR, there's still going to be an open slot (Gray, Libby, Pallante, McG, ????).

Is Q. Mathews healthy and ready? Maybe

But w/a great STing you'd have to think twice about Doyle.

Many are saying this kid has the best stuff in this years draft, this isn't something we're use to seeing in a Cardinals pitcher draft pick!

Like JJW, he's TOP SHELF again something we're not use to from our draft picks given how low the Cards have usually drafted the past 25 years.

I think we see a totally different approach from C. Bloom than we saw from Mo, perhaps a bit more willing to push the envelop than the extra cautious Mo?

Can't wait to see what happens next spring w/JJW and Doyle.

Is this not playing youngsters until its too late really warranted? Cardinals played Jordan Walker at a young age. One big bash is rushing Rosenthal and Hicks to one pitch closers instead of letting them develop secondary pitchers as starters. Has there been a pitcher with multi pitches almost dominating the minors the cards refused to call up? I think the answer might not be "too conservative" but just "not that good"?

[ICCFIM2]

I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately

I'm really interested to see if the new C. Bloom/R. Cerfolio team brings up players like JJW & now Doyle at a much faster pace than Mo.

Doyle is already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby.

Let's hope he's dynamite in STing and forces his way onto the OD roster.

At worse he's only at Memphis a short while, kicks a z z and is here before Memorial Day.

I'm interested in seeing how aggressive they are, as well. That said, I do not see a world where this kid breaks opening camp with the 2026 club. Chase burns, who was equally as dynamite and much more polished didn't break camp

You never know tlr

He's a 21 year old with two years of SEC (the best) ball under his belt.

If he kicks a z z this spring, then I see no reason he can't break camp.

If that is the hope, all the more reason to give him 4 starts or so at Springfield in August. He might realistically make it to the majors next year, but breaking camp seems wildly optimistic. He does need some work on his secondary pitches. 3 weeks in Jupiter working with coaches, a few starts at Springfield and then 7-8 starts in Memphis might be enough. But pitchers tend to need some time working on not tipping pitches, working on motion consistency between pitches and really having 3 good pitches to be a major league starter. Getting all that worked out in 10-15 minor league starts seems optimistic. I really think the Cards window should open in 2027. Wetherholdt, Mathews, McGreevy, Crooks and maybe Roby should all have one years experience in the majors to start 2027. Then if Doyle, Bernal and Baez make the team in 2027, the Cards should have graduated the guys who could be stars to the roster in 2027.

Even Misioroski spent 3.5 years in the Brewers minor league system before making his debut this year. He was a year younger when drafted. BTW, how did the Cards miss on him, with him being a MO boy...

Sounds great to me ICC

I'm NOT predicting he'll break camp and be on the OD roster.

Just said if he kicks a z z and they feel he's got the secondary stuff (we know he's got the gas) to get ML hitters out, then he's got a chance to break camp.

IMO he's already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby and McGreevy.

Even if McGreevy is in the 2026 SR, there's still going to be an open slot (Gray, Libby, Pallante, McG, ????).

Is Q. Mathews healthy and ready? Maybe

But w/a great STing you'd have to think twice about Doyle.

Many are saying this kid has the best stuff in this years draft, this isn't something we're use to seeing in a Cardinals pitcher draft pick!

Like JJW, he's TOP SHELF again something we're not use to from our draft picks given how low the Cards have usually drafted the past 25 years.

I think we see a totally different approach from C. Bloom than we saw from Mo, perhaps a bit more willing to push the envelop than the extra cautious Mo?

Can't wait to see what happens next spring w/JJW and Doyle.

I am super excited about the pick as well. We finally have a guy who might be the TOR pitcher we have needed since AW was no longer that. I just don't see any need to rush him since I don't think the team can legitimately contend next year. I do want them to legitimately contend in 2027.

I am assuming either Mathews or Roby will win the fifth spot next year with the loser of that competition being the next man up.

I am really hoping the Cards are able to trade Arenado. I would like to see an infield next year or even this year of Wetherholdt, Winn, Donovan and Contreras. I don't care which of Donovan or Wetherholdt play 3B. I am also fine with them trading Contreras as well and parking Burleson at 1B. Contreras has shown decline this year as well. It is a bit too LH heavy, especially if Gorman is the utility guy. But, at least it is a young group with upside potential. They do need a RH OF...

[rockondlouie]

I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately

I'm really interested to see if the new C. Bloom/R. Cerfolio team brings up players like JJW & now Doyle at a much faster pace than Mo.

Doyle is already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby.

Let's hope he's dynamite in STing and forces his way onto the OD roster.

At worse he's only at Memphis a short while, kicks a z z and is here before Memorial Day.

I'm interested in seeing how aggressive they are, as well. That said, I do not see a world where this kid breaks opening camp with the 2026 club. Chase burns, who was equally as dynamite and much more polished didn't break camp

You never know tlr

He's a 21 year old with two years of SEC (the best) ball under his belt.

If he kicks a z z this spring, then I see no reason he can't break camp.

If that is the hope, all the more reason to give him 4 starts or so at Springfield in August. He might realistically make it to the majors next year, but breaking camp seems wildly optimistic. He does need some work on his secondary pitches. 3 weeks in Jupiter working with coaches, a few starts at Springfield and then 7-8 starts in Memphis might be enough. But pitchers tend to need some time working on not tipping pitches, working on motion consistency between pitches and really having 3 good pitches to be a major league starter. Getting all that worked out in 10-15 minor league starts seems optimistic. I really think the Cards window should open in 2027. Wetherholdt, Mathews, McGreevy, Crooks and maybe Roby should all have one years experience in the majors to start 2027. Then if Doyle, Bernal and Baez make the team in 2027, the Cards should have graduated the guys who could be stars to the roster in 2027.

Even Misioroski spent 3.5 years in the Brewers minor league system before making his debut this year. He was a year younger when drafted. BTW, how did the Cards miss on him, with him being a MO boy...

Sounds great to me ICC

I'm NOT predicting he'll break camp and be on the OD roster.

Just said if he kicks a z z and they feel he's got the secondary stuff (we know he's got the gas) to get ML hitters out, then he's got a chance to break camp.

IMO he's already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby and McGreevy.

Even if McGreevy is in the 2026 SR, there's still going to be an open slot (Gray, Libby, Pallante, McG, ????).

Is Q. Mathews healthy and ready? Maybe

But w/a great STing you'd have to think twice about Doyle.

Many are saying this kid has the best stuff in this years draft, this isn't something we're use to seeing in a Cardinals pitcher draft pick!

Like JJW, he's TOP SHELF again something we're not use to from our draft picks given how low the Cards have usually drafted the past 25 years.

I think we see a totally different approach from C. Bloom than we saw from Mo, perhaps a bit more willing to push the envelop than the extra cautious Mo?

Can't wait to see what happens next spring w/JJW and Doyle.

Is this not playing youngsters until its too late really warranted? Cardinals played Jordan Walker at a young age. One big bash is rushing Rosenthal and Hicks to one pitch closers instead of letting them develop secondary pitchers as starters. Has there been a pitcher with multi pitches almost dominating the minors the cards refused to call up? I think the answer might not be "too conservative" but just "not that good"?

Walker wasn't ready, a massive failure by Mo and his staff not to put him in the OF much sooner while down below. Then they started messing w/his swing to get more lift and well.............we both know what happened.

But Walker doesn't possess JJW's hitting skills, JJ is miles ahead of him.

Same w/Rosey (21st round pick) and Hicks (3rd round high school pick), they're not on the same prospect level as Doyle nor did they have his SEC college experience.

As for your question, "... Has there been a pitcher with multi pitches almost dominating the minors the cards refused to call up"?

Yes, this year: Michael McGreevy (1st round pick).

[Clubmaker2]

With the loser chitbums this Cards team is trotting out to the mound to get pummeled…….you idiots are worried that a KID has too much fire, attitude, and might say a naughty word or 2 rather than how long it will take for his superior stuff to start getting the competition out???
WTH is wrong with some of you??
Did you ever read the lips of La Russa and Dunc going at the Chicago, Cincy, Pitt…..dugouts??
What do you think Yadi was saying with mask on or off that provoked countless bench clearing brawls with teams??
And I’m sure you think C. Carpenter was blowing kisses to the runner on base or walking off the mound??
Grow a pair…..or go watch some Geriatric pickle ball match at Forest Park

Carp was a beast, opponents hated his fiery personality and we LOVED IT!

I have no concerns about this kid and hope he keeps that fire in his belly.

It blows my mind that some of these posters…..the first comment they make about a top 5 pick is that “he’ll have to control his attitude”…..
WHAT???

He just needs experience against pros who will try to manipulate and exploit it. They will bait him and game him. Just pitch some in the minors working on secondary pitches and endurance and he can figure out how much and win to peak the enthusiasm just as part of his success in the game, or at the other team. A little experience in all aspects is always helpful. This even includes things like letting him do some interviews on the minor league radio station etc. How to work with your catcher with the umpire etc. or the ump blows several calls. Set him up for success in all areas. Some guys who are super emotional can also say or do some dumb things during highs and lows unfortunately. So lets set up for success by some rehearsals in the minors.


@RL last post ..+1

[Goldfan]

With the loser chitbums this Cards team is trotting out to the mound to get pummeled…….you idiots are worried that a KID has too much fire, attitude, and might say a naughty word or 2 rather than how long it will take for his superior stuff to start getting the competition out???
WTH is wrong with some of you??
Did you ever read the lips of La Russa and Dunc going at the Chicago, Cincy, Pitt…..dugouts??
What do you think Yadi was saying with mask on or off that provoked countless bench clearing brawls with teams??
And I’m sure you think C. Carpenter was blowing kisses to the runner on base or walking off the mound??
Grow a pair…..or go watch some Geriatric pickle ball match at Forest Park

Carp was a beast, opponents hated his fiery personality and we LOVED IT!

I have no concerns about this kid and hope he keeps that fire in his belly.

It blows my mind that some of these posters…..the first comment they make about a top 5 pick is that “he’ll have to control his attitude”…..
WHAT???

He just needs experience against pros who will try to manipulate and exploit it. They will bait him and game him. Just pitch some in the minors working on secondary pitches and endurance and he can figure out how much and win to peak the enthusiasm just as part of his success in the game, or at the other team. A little experience in all aspects is always helpful. This even includes things like letting him do some interviews on the minor league radio station etc. How to work with your catcher with the umpire etc. or the ump blows several calls. Set him up for success in all areas. Some guys who are super emotional can also say or do some dumb things during highs and lows unfortunately. So lets set up for success by some rehearsals in the minors.

I’ve seen some interviews…..he seems like a fine well adjusted kid. No one knows what was going on during those games between the teams so extrapolating that he needs a shrink from a 1min highlight is ridiculous

[rockondlouie]

I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately

I'm really interested to see if the new C. Bloom/R. Cerfolio team brings up players like JJW & now Doyle at a much faster pace than Mo.

Doyle is already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby.

Let's hope he's dynamite in STing and forces his way onto the OD roster.

At worse he's only at Memphis a short while, kicks a z z and is here before Memorial Day.

I'm interested in seeing how aggressive they are, as well. That said, I do not see a world where this kid breaks opening camp with the 2026 club. Chase burns, who was equally as dynamite and much more polished didn't break camp

You never know tlr

He's a 21 year old with two years of SEC (the best) ball under his belt.

If he kicks a z z this spring, then I see no reason he can't break camp.

If that is the hope, all the more reason to give him 4 starts or so at Springfield in August. He might realistically make it to the majors next year, but breaking camp seems wildly optimistic. He does need some work on his secondary pitches. 3 weeks in Jupiter working with coaches, a few starts at Springfield and then 7-8 starts in Memphis might be enough. But pitchers tend to need some time working on not tipping pitches, working on motion consistency between pitches and really having 3 good pitches to be a major league starter. Getting all that worked out in 10-15 minor league starts seems optimistic. I really think the Cards window should open in 2027. Wetherholdt, Mathews, McGreevy, Crooks and maybe Roby should all have one years experience in the majors to start 2027. Then if Doyle, Bernal and Baez make the team in 2027, the Cards should have graduated the guys who could be stars to the roster in 2027.

Even Misioroski spent 3.5 years in the Brewers minor league system before making his debut this year. He was a year younger when drafted. BTW, how did the Cards miss on him, with him being a MO boy...

Sounds great to me ICC

I'm NOT predicting he'll break camp and be on the OD roster.

Just said if he kicks a z z and they feel he's got the secondary stuff (we know he's got the gas) to get ML hitters out, then he's got a chance to break camp.

IMO he's already better than A. Pallante, perhaps even Libby and McGreevy.

Even if McGreevy is in the 2026 SR, there's still going to be an open slot (Gray, Libby, Pallante, McG, ????).

Is Q. Mathews healthy and ready? Maybe

But w/a great STing you'd have to think twice about Doyle.

Many are saying this kid has the best stuff in this years draft, this isn't something we're use to seeing in a Cardinals pitcher draft pick!

Like JJW, he's TOP SHELF again something we're not use to from our draft picks given how low the Cards have usually drafted the past 25 years.

I think we see a totally different approach from C. Bloom than we saw from Mo, perhaps a bit more willing to push the envelop than the extra cautious Mo?

Can't wait to see what happens next spring w/JJW and Doyle.

I am super excited about the pick as well. We finally have a guy who might be the TOR pitcher we have needed since AW was no longer that. I just don't see any need to rush him since I don't think the team can legitimately contend next year. I do want them to legitimately contend in 2027.

I am assuming either Mathews or Roby will win the fifth spot next year with the loser of that competition being the next man up.

I am really hoping the Cards are able to trade Arenado. I would like to see an infield next year or even this year of Wetherholdt, Winn, Donovan and Contreras. I don't care which of Donovan or Wetherholdt play 3B. I am also fine with them trading Contreras as well and parking Burleson at 1B. Contreras has shown decline this year as well. It is a bit too LH heavy, especially if Gorman is the utility guy. But, at least it is a young group with upside potential. They do need a RH OF...

We really do in Doyle.

I haven't been this jacked about a pitcher since they drafted R. Ankiel who I thought was going to be a sure fire FOTR starter.

"Q" could indeed be that guy, Roby too but they have to stay healthy before I ink them in.

JJ's headed to 2nd base (IMO), Donny probably to LF unless Bloom acquires an OFer.

Willy's not going anywhere, NTC and he loves it here and I'm a big fan as well.