GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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JDW wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:02 pm Is Parker expected to be hard to sign?
Idk enough to have a strong opinion, but JoJo intrigues me.
Tia
the only obstacle that JoJo ever offered was he's tied to his brother with their commitment to Mississippi St. If one is drafted and the other isn't, then they both go to State....

That won't be an issue. Both are probably drafted tonight...his brother Jacob is ranked near 100 on most boards. Jacob goes tonight or very early tomorrow
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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riff raff wrote: 13 Jul 2025 13:35 pm I would expect the best pitcher available.
Bloom develops pitchers, yes?
Clearly the smart approach.
By definition, the best pitcher available is the best player available.
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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VegasVinny wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:52 pm
Karmaloop3 wrote: 13 Jul 2025 13:37 pm Feels like a worst case scenario would be:

1.) WAS - SS Eli Wllits
2.) LAA - LHP Kade Anderson
3.) SEA - RHP Seth Hernandez
4.) COL - SS Ethan Holliday
Then they most likely snag Arnold. I wouldn’t be disappointed in that decision.
Yep.
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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when the draft actually starts, I'll watch ESPN I suppose but for this pre-draft hour it's MLBTV
I like their experts better than ESPN's
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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renostl wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?
It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote
Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:13 pm
riff raff wrote: 13 Jul 2025 13:35 pm I would expect the best pitcher available.
Bloom develops pitchers, yes?
Clearly the smart approach.
By definition, the best pitcher available is the best player available.
Curious. If you were building a team and could choose between Pujols or Gibson who do you pick?
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm
Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:13 pm
riff raff wrote: 13 Jul 2025 13:35 pm I would expect the best pitcher available.
Bloom develops pitchers, yes?
Clearly the smart approach.
By definition, the best pitcher available is the best player available.
Curious. If you were building a team and could choose between Pujols or Gibson who do you pick?
Gibson
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:12 pm
JDW wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:02 pm Is Parker expected to be hard to sign?
Idk enough to have a strong opinion, but JoJo intrigues me.
Tia
the only obstacle that JoJo ever offered was he's tied to his brother with their commitment to Mississippi St. If one is drafted and the other isn't, then they both go to State....

That won't be an issue. Both are probably drafted tonight...his brother Jacob is ranked near 100 on most boards. Jacob goes tonight or very early tomorrow
Thank you.
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:25 pm
AZ_Cardsfan wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm
Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:13 pm
riff raff wrote: 13 Jul 2025 13:35 pm I would expect the best pitcher available.
Bloom develops pitchers, yes?
Clearly the smart approach.
By definition, the best pitcher available is the best player available.
Curious. If you were building a team and could choose between Pujols or Gibson who do you pick?
Gibson
OK. Me I choose Pujols. Not only because I believe he wins you more games but also because an every day player brings in more fans to watch games. But at least you are consistent.
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm
renostl wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?
It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote
Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision
for top end? It's not a very good year. For 20-60 in the draft, it's a very good year .

Anderson, Doyle, and Arnold wouldn't go in the top 15 last year....probably not Top 25 for 2 of them. SMith and Burns were very good, and Clinjeje and Yesavage were very good.....those 4 beat all 3 of the top LHP this year.

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that being said, those 3 pitchers, are better than the college hitters this year.

THere's a reason there's so many HS prospects in the Top 10...this college crop sucks up top this year.
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It would be cool if they pulled off drafting both Parker brothers.
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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:35 pm It would be cool if they pulled off drafting both Parker brothers.
they wouldn't be Sorry, they'd have a Monopoly on them, but that's Life.

:wink: ::crazya::
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craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?
Willits 31%
Arnold 28%
Parker 19%
Irish 12%

close again.
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craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:27 pm
Melville wrote: 13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm
renostl wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?
It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote
Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision
for top end? It's not a very good year. For 20-60 in the draft, it's a very good year .

Anderson, Doyle, and Arnold wouldn't go in the top 15 last year....probably not Top 25 for 2 of them. SMith and Burns were very good, and Clinjeje and Yesavage were very good.....those 4 beat all 3 of the top LHP this year.
But we are talking the 5 pick.
Not 30 or 40.
If one of the top 3 starting pitchers (college) is on the board, that is the best option for where the organization is at right now.
They need to restock the rotation and waiting 5 or 6 years for a HS kid - position or pitcher- with huge risks, simply makes no sense.
As you say, the team can look later in the draft for a college bat - that opportunity will be there.
There is no logical basis for skipping over a top 3 college starter
That said, I know we agree that all first round picks are pure projection and none are guaranteed.
As I recall, some high school 3B named Walker was considered the best power hitting draft prospect in the entire draft a few years back ...
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 09:53 am

Fun Poll to start the day.

WHO Will Go #1 Overall to the Nationals?

if you select other, list your other here if you wish.

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534288x438846d1-164

will close it before the draft, with results....Have FUN!!

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Kade Anderson ran away with it at 71%
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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

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rockondlouie wrote: 13 Jul 2025 11:09 am
craviduce wrote: 13 Jul 2025 10:05 am Baseball America's Final Mock...7.0

1. Nationals ~ Anderson, LHP, LSU
2. Angels ~ Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
3. Mariners ~ Hernandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif.
4. Rockies ~ Holliday, SS/3B, Stillwater HS, Okla.
5. Cardinals ~ Willits, SS, Ft. Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla.
6. Pirates ~ Arquette, SS, Oregon St.
^^^THIS^^^

But would love for the Rockies to pass on Matty's boy but they won't, too good a player and marketing opportunity given how popular Matt was in Denver.
But given how bad the Rockies are, what if Ethan just decides to got to OSU and re-enter in 2 years? Its not like he needs the millions right now given how much his dad is worth.

Also his Dad spent more years in STL and won a ring. Stillwater boy from our TV territory. He would 100% sign if we drafted him.
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