So haters, how exactly do we quantify if moving Nado down worked?

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

Right you have no idea how things would have worked out so youre just a whiney baby complaining about Oli making a smart decision

[desertrat23]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

[Futuregm2]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

Well he thinks his comments on here were why the Cardinals traded for Arenado in the first place so obviously he has crazy ideas and thoughts about how much of an impact he makes on here. I have a feeling his room is a creepy shrine to Nolan Arenado.

[JDW]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

Right you have no idea how things would have worked out so youre just a whiney baby complaining about Oli making a smart decision

Yes, I don't know how they would have turned out, but I know how they turned out and I would swap in a second because they lost 2 in a row and looks like some momentum. What's so smart about it? That's kind of the whole point of this thread, how exactly did you quantify it was smart? All I've seen is a series loss and series loss at home for the first time in a while.

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

Well he thinks his comments on here were why the Cardinals traded for Arenado in the first place so obviously he has crazy ideas and thoughts about how much of an impact he makes on here. I have a feeling his room is a creepy shrine to Nolan Arenado.

No kidding I didnt see him posting that it was because of Nolan Arenado batting 4th that the cardinals were 14-19 before the winning streatk but I guess Arenado only gets credit when they win. The pitching was spectacular during that winning streak that had nothing to do with Arenado hitting fourth and the bad pitching the past two days had nothing to do with Arenado being dropped from the four spot. He is an idiot. He believes Fedde threw a complete game shut out and 5 2/3 shut out innings during the streak because Arenado was bating fourth then he gets dropped to sixth and that caused Fedde to give up 4 runs in 5 innings yesterday lol

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

Well he thinks his comments on here were why the Cardinals traded for Arenado in the first place so obviously he has crazy ideas and thoughts about how much of an impact he makes on here. I have a feeling his room is a creepy shrine to Nolan Arenado.

No kidding I didnt see him posting that it was because of Nolan Arenado batting 4th that the cardinals were 14-19 before the winning streatk but I guess Arenado only gets credit when they win. The pitching was spectacular during that winning streak that had nothing to do with Arenado hitting fourth and the bad pitching the past two days had nothing to do with Arenado being dropped from the four spot. He is an idiot. He believes Fedde threw a complete game shut out and 5 2/3 shut out innings during the streak because Arenado was bating fourth then he gets dropped to sixth and that caused Fedde to give up 4 runs in 5 innings yesterday lol

Lol, how do you know what makes a team hot or cools them off? Maybe moving Willson Contreras down and Winn into the second spot gave them a boost. Maybe Herrera coming back and seeing good pitches in the 6th spot was it. Can the offense, defense, team moral and confidence effect pitching performances? So can you answer my question? How are things so much better now?

[desertrat23]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Uh, don’t think they changed the lineup because people on the internet wanted them to? Not what I would call wise policy analysis.

[JDW]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

Well he thinks his comments on here were why the Cardinals traded for Arenado in the first place so obviously he has crazy ideas and thoughts about how much of an impact he makes on here. I have a feeling his room is a creepy shrine to Nolan Arenado.

No kidding I didnt see him posting that it was because of Nolan Arenado batting 4th that the cardinals were 14-19 before the winning streatk but I guess Arenado only gets credit when they win. The pitching was spectacular during that winning streak that had nothing to do with Arenado hitting fourth and the bad pitching the past two days had nothing to do with Arenado being dropped from the four spot. He is an idiot. He believes Fedde threw a complete game shut out and 5 2/3 shut out innings during the streak because Arenado was bating fourth then he gets dropped to sixth and that caused Fedde to give up 4 runs in 5 innings yesterday lol

Lol, how do you know what makes a team hot or cools them off? Maybe moving Willson Contreras down and Winn into the second spot gave them a boost. Maybe Herrera coming back and seeing good pitches in the 6th spot was it. Can the offense, defense, team moral and confidence effect pitching performances? So can you answer my question? How are things so much better now?

They aren’t but i know enough about baseball and intelligent enough to know that they were never going to continue winning 13 of every 15 games no matter where Arenado batted apparently you are too dumb to understand that. You’re whole judgment was unless they continue winning at that pace it’s a failure that’s dumb just dumb they were never going to keep winning like that no matter what. And you’re logic is they should have moved him from fourth when they were 14-19 because it was his fault but not once they started winning it’s dumb just dumb

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

Well he thinks his comments on here were why the Cardinals traded for Arenado in the first place so obviously he has crazy ideas and thoughts about how much of an impact he makes on here. I have a feeling his room is a creepy shrine to Nolan Arenado.

No kidding I didnt see him posting that it was because of Nolan Arenado batting 4th that the cardinals were 14-19 before the winning streatk but I guess Arenado only gets credit when they win. The pitching was spectacular during that winning streak that had nothing to do with Arenado hitting fourth and the bad pitching the past two days had nothing to do with Arenado being dropped from the four spot. He is an idiot. He believes Fedde threw a complete game shut out and 5 2/3 shut out innings during the streak because Arenado was bating fourth then he gets dropped to sixth and that caused Fedde to give up 4 runs in 5 innings yesterday lol

Lol, how do you know what makes a team hot or cools them off? Maybe moving Willson Contreras down and Winn into the second spot gave them a boost. Maybe Herrera coming back and seeing good pitches in the 6th spot was it. Can the offense, defense, team moral and confidence effect pitching performances? So can you answer my question? How are things so much better now?

They aren’t but i know enough about baseball and am intelligent enough to know that they were never going to continue winning 13 of every 15 games no matter where Arenado batted apparently you are too dumb to understand that. You’re whole judgment was unless they continue winning at that pace it’s a failure that’s dumb just dumb they were never going to keep winning like that no matter what

Oh, I know no team can maintain that level of performance for a whole season or even most of it. I also know you start making adjustments and tinkering with stuff when you are not winning like that. Seems like common sense to me. Dumb is messing with the success and fixing things that are winning, making everyone happy and getting to the goal. Is your smart move doing that genius?

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Among other things, CT [nonsense] analyzer. You failed miserably btw.
What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things. Arrogance and ignorance are closely related.
Also, your complaint and whines should be directed at Oli an Arenado. They're the 2 that adjusted the lineup, with help from Arenado's input.
Ebbs and flows. That's what we're seeing with the team. Trying to blame the last 2 losses on the lineup adjustments is ridiculous.
You do qualify there.

What's your specialty? 33 degree member of the freemasons, skull and bones? "What you think you know and what reality is are 2 different things". Break that down, I want to know WAY more about that, my teachability index is sky high for that knowledge. I try to not be arrogant but my ignorance of the situation and what is being reported is real. How exactly do you know what happened? For all we know it was a preventative public relations action taken by a team struggling with support and attendance trying to appease the small but loud group of haters that are never happy. Is that possible?

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

How's 11 runs through 7 looking?

How's a series loss at home and just as many losses in less than 24 hours compared to the previous 2+ weeks looking? Not to mention dropping a couple of games more behind the Cubs?

So you think Nado going 0 for 4 in the clean up spot would have helped them win today? lol youre an idiot. And if you think they would have continued to win 13 out of every 15 games if he stayed in the clean up spot then you are a bigger idiot

I don't know anything about how things would have worked out since you haters demanded things get fixed with the lineup. I know you fixed our series winning streak. Are things way better now?

OUR series winning streak? How long are you under contract?

Well he thinks his comments on here were why the Cardinals traded for Arenado in the first place so obviously he has crazy ideas and thoughts about how much of an impact he makes on here. I have a feeling his room is a creepy shrine to Nolan Arenado.

No kidding I didnt see him posting that it was because of Nolan Arenado batting 4th that the cardinals were 14-19 before the winning streatk but I guess Arenado only gets credit when they win. The pitching was spectacular during that winning streak that had nothing to do with Arenado hitting fourth and the bad pitching the past two days had nothing to do with Arenado being dropped from the four spot. He is an idiot. He believes Fedde threw a complete game shut out and 5 2/3 shut out innings during the streak because Arenado was bating fourth then he gets dropped to sixth and that caused Fedde to give up 4 runs in 5 innings yesterday lol

Lol, how do you know what makes a team hot or cools them off? Maybe moving Willson Contreras down and Winn into the second spot gave them a boost. Maybe Herrera coming back and seeing good pitches in the 6th spot was it. Can the offense, defense, team moral and confidence effect pitching performances? So can you answer my question? How are things so much better now?

They aren’t but i know enough about baseball and am intelligent enough to know that they were never going to continue winning 13 of every 15 games no matter where Arenado batted apparently you are too dumb to understand that. You’re whole judgment was unless they continue winning at that pace it’s a failure that’s dumb just dumb they were never going to keep winning like that no matter what

Oh, I know no team can maintain that level of performance for a whole season or even most of it. I also know you start making adjustments and tinkering with stuff when you are not winning like that. Seems like common sense to me. Dumb is messing with the success and fixing things that are winning, making everyone happy and getting to the goal. Is your smart move doing that genius?

If the team is so mentally fragile they immediately collapse just because they moved a guy who agreed he should be moved from cleanup from hitting fourth then they would have collapsed over anything like a bird flying over and if pitchers started having bad games because they moved him from fourth like you claim then they need to trade them immediately because they suck. But none of that happened because you are just dumb. And what about when they won 11-4 the day he was moved did they not realize he had been moved to sixth? You just have a dumb view of it and no way you are any kind of strategist with that level of dumb

[Ike Hammett]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Uh, don’t think they changed the lineup because people on the internet wanted them to? Not what I would call wise policy analysis.

Yeah right, haven't you ever heard the expression the customer is always right? Business always change practices and ways of doing things to appease their customers. It is good business and policy in a lot of ways. Especially when the business is struggling with support and attendance compared to near past. One of their top goals, if not the highest is to keep fans happy.

[Ozziesfan41]

Are we going to do better than 12- 2 the next few weeks? Outscore our opponents more? Build better team chemistry? What?

It's pretty easy actually... you see how many runs Scott, Noot, Winn and Donovan score over the next few weeks, and compare it to the last few weeks.

So did that Noot run score in the first inning because of the lineup change, I must admit calculus and even algebra isn't my specialty.

Just for kicks, what is your specialty?

Geopolitical economic warfare strategy and comprehensive domestic policy. Also knowing when baseball teams are hot and playing well you don't go messing around with that because haters on the internet whine all day long. You?

Uh, don’t think they changed the lineup because people on the internet wanted them to? Not what I would call wise policy analysis.

Yeah right, haven't you ever heard the expression the customer is always right? Business always change practices and ways of doing things to appease their customers. It is good business and policy in a lot of ways. Especially when the business is struggling with support and attendance compared to near past. One of their top goals, if not the highest is to keep fans happy.

If that were true oli and Mo would have been fired already