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Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:00 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:30 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 11:02 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 10:35 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:58 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:56 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:38 am Good morning.

How good will he be. He is really figured out hitting, added to his stellar defense and base stealing, we have a shot at a good to great center fielder.

His stat line last two games is elite ish. Shots down the line, to opposite field doubles.

I see him leading league in doubles and triples one year. Has that ever happened.

Has Scott emerged.

In spring training, I alluded to the fact that Scott deserved as much leeway as Walker and Gorman.

I see him emerging as a team leader. We needed that especially from the youth side of the clubhouse.

Gang- this is exactly what the reset was intended to do- let young play, see who can. So far several bright spots.

Do you see a possible Scott/Brock comp?

Stop it.

He's not Lou Brock.
Yepez is not Pujols.
Burly is not Votto or Gwynn.

You need to chill a little. Let some others have some fun with hopeful comps without your ridicule. So what if somebody is wrong about a baseball projection? This ain't cancer, nuclear war, etc.

You made a comp of Burleson to Tony Gwynn, one of the most pure hitters in the history of the sport? yikes

I don’t get the votto comparison either. Votto had power and averaged 108 walks per season. Burleson has zero power and it would take him 3 full seasons to get 108 walks

People say the craziest things. For instance I compared Scott to Brock and in physical stature to Ricky H. I even compared Walker to Winfield or a Clemente!

Crazy I tell you.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:07 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:00 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:30 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 11:02 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 10:35 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:58 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:56 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:38 am Good morning.

How good will he be. He is really figured out hitting, added to his stellar defense and base stealing, we have a shot at a good to great center fielder.

His stat line last two games is elite ish. Shots down the line, to opposite field doubles.

I see him leading league in doubles and triples one year. Has that ever happened.

Has Scott emerged.

In spring training, I alluded to the fact that Scott deserved as much leeway as Walker and Gorman.

I see him emerging as a team leader. We needed that especially from the youth side of the clubhouse.

Gang- this is exactly what the reset was intended to do- let young play, see who can. So far several bright spots.

Do you see a possible Scott/Brock comp?

Stop it.

He's not Lou Brock.
Yepez is not Pujols.
Burly is not Votto or Gwynn.

You need to chill a little. Let some others have some fun with hopeful comps without your ridicule. So what if somebody is wrong about a baseball projection? This ain't cancer, nuclear war, etc.

You made a comp of Burleson to Tony Gwynn, one of the most pure hitters in the history of the sport? yikes

I don’t get the votto comparison either. Votto had power and averaged 108 walks per season. Burleson has zero power and it would take him 3 full seasons to get 108 walks

People say the craziest things. For instance I compared Scott to Brock and in physical stature to Ricky H. I even compared Walker to Winfield or a Clemente!

Crazy I tell you.

I remember the day when i could have squinted and seen a Walker/Winfield potential comparison. those were good days

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:12 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:07 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:00 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:30 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 11:02 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 10:35 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:58 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:56 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:38 am Good morning.

How good will he be. He is really figured out hitting, added to his stellar defense and base stealing, we have a shot at a good to great center fielder.

His stat line last two games is elite ish. Shots down the line, to opposite field doubles.

I see him leading league in doubles and triples one year. Has that ever happened.

Has Scott emerged.

In spring training, I alluded to the fact that Scott deserved as much leeway as Walker and Gorman.

I see him emerging as a team leader. We needed that especially from the youth side of the clubhouse.

Gang- this is exactly what the reset was intended to do- let young play, see who can. So far several bright spots.

Do you see a possible Scott/Brock comp?

Stop it.

He's not Lou Brock.
Yepez is not Pujols.
Burly is not Votto or Gwynn.

You need to chill a little. Let some others have some fun with hopeful comps without your ridicule. So what if somebody is wrong about a baseball projection? This ain't cancer, nuclear war, etc.

You made a comp of Burleson to Tony Gwynn, one of the most pure hitters in the history of the sport? yikes

I don’t get the votto comparison either. Votto had power and averaged 108 walks per season. Burleson has zero power and it would take him 3 full seasons to get 108 walks

People say the craziest things. For instance I compared Scott to Brock and in physical stature to Ricky H. I even compared Walker to Winfield or a Clemente!

Crazy I tell you.

I remember the day when i could have squinted and seen a Walker/Winfield potential comparison. those were good days

Ha nice. I’m serious. First saw him thought Winfield.

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:12 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:07 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:00 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:30 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 11:02 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 10:35 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:58 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:56 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:38 am Good morning.

How good will he be. He is really figured out hitting, added to his stellar defense and base stealing, we have a shot at a good to great center fielder.

His stat line last two games is elite ish. Shots down the line, to opposite field doubles.

I see him leading league in doubles and triples one year. Has that ever happened.

Has Scott emerged.

In spring training, I alluded to the fact that Scott deserved as much leeway as Walker and Gorman.

I see him emerging as a team leader. We needed that especially from the youth side of the clubhouse.

Gang- this is exactly what the reset was intended to do- let young play, see who can. So far several bright spots.

Do you see a possible Scott/Brock comp?

Stop it.

He's not Lou Brock.
Yepez is not Pujols.
Burly is not Votto or Gwynn.

You need to chill a little. Let some others have some fun with hopeful comps without your ridicule. So what if somebody is wrong about a baseball projection? This ain't cancer, nuclear war, etc.

You made a comp of Burleson to Tony Gwynn, one of the most pure hitters in the history of the sport? yikes

I don’t get the votto comparison either. Votto had power and averaged 108 walks per season. Burleson has zero power and it would take him 3 full seasons to get 108 walks

People say the craziest things. For instance I compared Scott to Brock and in physical stature to Ricky H. I even compared Walker to Winfield or a Clemente!

Crazy I tell you.

I remember the day when i could have squinted and seen a Walker/Winfield potential comparison. those were good days

Well one of Walkers scouting reports when he was drafted compared him to Winfield so a professional made the same comparison which makes sense both were big and tall both had big power potential it doesnt mean Walker will ever unlock the power Winfield had because he doesnt have the launch angle winfield did but the potential is there. But comparing Burly and Votto is just strange two completely different skill sets. Burly isnt going to unlock the potential to walk 100 times a year or hit for power

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:20 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:12 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:07 am

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:00 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:30 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 11:02 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 10:35 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 09:00 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:58 am

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:56 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:38 am Good morning.

How good will he be. He is really figured out hitting, added to his stellar defense and base stealing, we have a shot at a good to great center fielder.

His stat line last two games is elite ish. Shots down the line, to opposite field doubles.

I see him leading league in doubles and triples one year. Has that ever happened.

Has Scott emerged.

In spring training, I alluded to the fact that Scott deserved as much leeway as Walker and Gorman.

I see him emerging as a team leader. We needed that especially from the youth side of the clubhouse.

Gang- this is exactly what the reset was intended to do- let young play, see who can. So far several bright spots.

Do you see a possible Scott/Brock comp?

Stop it.

He's not Lou Brock.
Yepez is not Pujols.
Burly is not Votto or Gwynn.

You need to chill a little. Let some others have some fun with hopeful comps without your ridicule. So what if somebody is wrong about a baseball projection? This ain't cancer, nuclear war, etc.

You made a comp of Burleson to Tony Gwynn, one of the most pure hitters in the history of the sport? yikes

I don’t get the votto comparison either. Votto had power and averaged 108 walks per season. Burleson has zero power and it would take him 3 full seasons to get 108 walks

People say the craziest things. For instance I compared Scott to Brock and in physical stature to Ricky H. I even compared Walker to Winfield or a Clemente!

Crazy I tell you.

I remember the day when i could have squinted and seen a Walker/Winfield potential comparison. those were good days

Well one of Walkers scouting reports when he was drafted compared him to Winfield so a professional made the same comparison which makes sense both were big and tall both had big power potential it doesnt mean Walker will ever unlock the power Winfield had because he doesnt have the launch angle winfield did but the potential is there. But comparing Burly and Votto is just strange two completely different skill sets. Burly isnt going to unlock the potential to walk 100 times a year or hit for power

Yea him walking 100 times in a career.

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:53 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:48 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:34 am Victor can do a lot of things but he can't throw a lick.

Opponents will take the extra base without even hesitating.

But in this lineup as it is with his offense you just have to live with it.

I haven't noticed.

I have.

I like him for his offense/potential but his arm isn't going to deter many baserunners.

Neither did Curt Flood's, Ray Lankford's or McGee's for comparison.

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:30 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:53 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:48 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:34 am Victor can do a lot of things but he can't throw a lick.

Opponents will take the extra base without even hesitating.

But in this lineup as it is with his offense you just have to live with it.

I haven't noticed.

I have.

I like him for his offense/potential but his arm isn't going to deter many baserunners.

Neither did Curt Flood's, Ray Lankford's or McGee's for comparison.

Does it help to have had good cutoff men at short and second?

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:30 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:53 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:48 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:34 am Victor can do a lot of things but he can't throw a lick.

Opponents will take the extra base without even hesitating.

But in this lineup as it is with his offense you just have to live with it.

I haven't noticed.

I have.

I like him for his offense/potential but his arm isn't going to deter many baserunners.

Neither did Curt Flood's, Ray Lankford's or McGee's for comparison.

McGee had a better arm.

Flood hurt his arm in the minors and Lankford's offense as a CF'er who would care if he ever threw anyone out.

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 10:18 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:30 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:53 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:48 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:34 am Victor can do a lot of things but he can't throw a lick.

Opponents will take the extra base without even hesitating.

But in this lineup as it is with his offense you just have to live with it.

I haven't noticed.

I have.

I like him for his offense/potential but his arm isn't going to deter many baserunners.

Neither did Curt Flood's, Ray Lankford's or McGee's for comparison.

McGee had a better arm.

Flood hurt his arm in the minors and Lankford's offense as a CF'er who would care if he ever threw anyone out.

So Scott has a chance to be Ray ish. Like it.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 10:36 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 10:18 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:30 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:53 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:48 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:34 am Victor can do a lot of things but he can't throw a lick.

Opponents will take the extra base without even hesitating.

But in this lineup as it is with his offense you just have to live with it.

I haven't noticed.

I have.

I like him for his offense/potential but his arm isn't going to deter many baserunners.

Neither did Curt Flood's, Ray Lankford's or McGee's for comparison.

McGee had a better arm.

Flood hurt his arm in the minors and Lankford's offense as a CF'er who would care if he ever threw anyone out.

So Scott has a chance to be Ray ish. Like it.

Yeah I made the comparison earlier in the season.

I know that's quite a stretch because Lankford was a tank physically but maybe Victor will hit the milk shakes and Peanut butter sandwiches in the off season.

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 10:40 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 10:36 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 10:18 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 09:30 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:53 am

OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:48 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 08:34 am Victor can do a lot of things but he can't throw a lick.

Opponents will take the extra base without even hesitating.

But in this lineup as it is with his offense you just have to live with it.

I haven't noticed.

I have.

I like him for his offense/potential but his arm isn't going to deter many baserunners.

Neither did Curt Flood's, Ray Lankford's or McGee's for comparison.

McGee had a better arm.

Flood hurt his arm in the minors and Lankford's offense as a CF'er who would care if he ever threw anyone out.

So Scott has a chance to be Ray ish. Like it.

Yeah I made the comparison earlier in the season.

I know that's quite a stretch because Lankford was a tank physically but maybe Victor will hit the milk shakes and Peanut butter sandwiches in the off season.

Hopefully VS2 just is VS2 and has a nice career in St. Louis.

In 2024 the average OPS in CF by team was .697 the Cards were last with a .570
2024 in WAA the Cards were tied for last with the CWS with a -1.5 WAA.

A top 6 OPS in CF was .735 by Matt Vierling a St. Louis guy with .257/.312/.423
A top 4 OPS in CF was .762 by JJ Bleday .243/.324/.427

Scott may profile differently in getting those top 6 OPS and will bring added value
in base running. I really believe though that a top 6 OPS is in ability. he's at .337/.400/.737 now.

IF he can do that the Cards will be just fine at CF instead of it being a team issue. His glove
will be just fine.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:21 pm

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:56 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:38 am Good morning.

How good will he be. He is really figured out hitting, added to his stellar defense and base stealing, we have a shot at a good to great center fielder.

His stat line last two games is elite ish. Shots down the line, to opposite field doubles.

I see him leading league in doubles and triples one year. Has that ever happened.

Has Scott emerged.

In spring training, I alluded to the fact that Scott deserved as much leeway as Walker and Gorman. Later, I posted a possible Scott/Brock comp and got roasted. LOL

My fav of yours was the Yepez/Pujols comp followed by your Burly/Votto-Gwynn comp.

This one is almost as idiotic!

What about sayong that one pitcher was like a "righty" version of chris carpenter

Wattage wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 13:53 pm

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 15:21 pm

Shady wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:56 am

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:38 am Good morning.

How good will he be. He is really figured out hitting, added to his stellar defense and base stealing, we have a shot at a good to great center fielder.

His stat line last two games is elite ish. Shots down the line, to opposite field doubles.

I see him leading league in doubles and triples one year. Has that ever happened.

Has Scott emerged.

In spring training, I alluded to the fact that Scott deserved as much leeway as Walker and Gorman. Later, I posted a possible Scott/Brock comp and got roasted. LOL

My fav of yours was the Yepez/Pujols comp followed by your Burly/Votto-Gwynn comp.

This one is almost as idiotic!

What about sayong that one pitcher was like a "righty" version of chris carpenter

Another ShadyMaple classic!

Drandes07 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:57 am http://eriklundegaard.com/item/leading- ... nd-triples

Stan did it 4 times and Rogers Hornsby once.

(bleep), I would have bet Ricky being Ricky would be on that list...

jw0595 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 19:07 pm

Drandes07 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:57 am http://eriklundegaard.com/item/leading- ... nd-triples

Stan did it 4 times and Rogers Hornsby once.

(drat), I would have bet Ricky being Ricky would be on that list...

Yea me too. Good find.

sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 19:42 pm

jw0595 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 19:07 pm

Drandes07 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 08:57 am http://eriklundegaard.com/item/leading- ... nd-triples

Stan did it 4 times and Rogers Hornsby once.

(drat), I would have bet Ricky being Ricky would be on that list...

Yea me too. Good find.

Again, if he’d average 3 hits per two games, 1.5 hits per game, he’d hit .300. That s 240 hits. That’s a lot of stolen bases.