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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:06 pm
by RunSup
BA report. The Cardinal burn round 7 on a pitcher just undergone TJ surgery and control problems. Not sure Flores can spell UDFA.
Full name
Payton Marcus Graham
Born
11/04/2003 in Vancouver, WA
Profile
Ht.: 6'1" / Wt.: 190 / Bats: R / Throws: R
School
Kamiakin
Ranked #254 prospect in 2025 draft
School: Gonzaga Drafted/Committed: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.7
Graham is a power-armed righthander with a physical, 6-foot-2, 220-pound frame but a spotty collegiate track record and medical concerns. He pitched as a reliever in his first two seasons with Gonzaga where he struggled with strikes, then made just one start in 2025 before dealing with arm soreness and Tommy John surgery that ended his season. Graham works with a high-effort, reliever-ish delivery but sits in the mid 90s with a fastball that has been up to 98. His go-to secondaries are a low-80s slider and a hard cutter around 90 mph, but he’s also mixed in a curveball and changeup in the past. He has plenty of weapons and might benefit by shortening his arsenal in the future in an attempt to become more consistent. Graham has always been a below-average strike-thrower and owns a career 13.6% walk rate. He’s a wildcard because of his health, but will still be more appealing to teams than his surface-level college stats indicate.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:10 pm
by Cranny
Picklefork wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:04 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:00 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 12:53 pm
There are still 15 Top 100 draftees still on the board. Please pick one.
at this point....every team out there won't select those guys unless there is an agreed to contract in place.
Not until the 10th round, that is where they don't lose the allotted slot money. The kids that are still remaining from the top 100 will almost certainly forgo the draft and head to college or in Ford's case, transfer as a draft eligible soph.
Whether you agree or not with the strategy of the Cardinals draft process, you have to acknowledge they have smart people in place that know things that we don't, MLBTV, ESPN and bloggers don't.
What about the college guys in the Top 102 that are still there?
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:12 pm
by RunSup
BA report.
Returning to the short stature, patient hitter themes of last year
Full name
Ryan Weingartner
Born
07/05/2004 in Berlin, NJ
Profile
Ht.: 5'11" / Wt.: 180 / Bats: R / Throws: R
School
St. Joseph's
Top Rankings
Draft Prospects
Ranked #391 prospect in 2025 draft
School: Penn State Drafted/Committed: Never Drafted
Age At Draft: 21.0
Weingartner was an All-Atlantic 10 first-teamer after a 2024 season in which he hit 15 homers and stole 18 bases with St. Joseph’s. After two years with the program, Weingartner transferred to Penn State for his 2025 junior season. He didn’t replicate the same offensive performance he showed in the A-10, but he does have solid on-base skills and slugged 10 homers. Weingartner is a patient hitter who doesn’t expand the zone too often and has always taken his share of walks, even upping his walk rate to just under 16% despite facing stronger competition in the Big Ten. At 5-foot-11, 185 pounds, he doesn’t offer much physical projection, but he’s a good runner who stole 30 bases in his one season at Penn State and can play a premium defensive position.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:12 pm
by tyoung12290
Cranny wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:10 pm
Picklefork wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:04 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:00 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 12:53 pm
There are still 15 Top 100 draftees still on the board. Please pick one.
at this point....every team out there won't select those guys unless there is an agreed to contract in place.
Not until the 10th round, that is where they don't lose the allotted slot money. The kids that are still remaining from the top 100 will almost certainly forgo the draft and head to college or in Ford's case, transfer as a draft eligible soph.
Whether you agree or not with the strategy of the Cardinals draft process, you have to acknowledge they have smart people in place that know things that we don't, MLBTV, ESPN and bloggers don't.
What about the college guys in the Top 102 that are still there?
every team is letting these guys sit not just the cardinals.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:14 pm
by Cranny
tyoung12290 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 12:57 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 12:52 pm
CNYFan wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 12:49 pm
I like the LH in Round 4, Crossland.
The Gonzaga Pitcher is a long shot.
Why waste your 7th round pick on an injured long shot, who has no track record of success.
7th round is a lotto anyways. Looks like hes been adding velocity so who knows.
Helsley - 5th round
Donovan - 7th round
Edman - 6th round
Nootbaar - 8th round
Pallante - 4th round
Scott - 5th round
Pages - 6th round
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:14 pm
by Hoosier59
I know there must be a strategy in place, but so far today’s picks all look like a waste of money. Dewitt trying to save money but paying players that will never be MLB caliber is just stupid! A couple more picks to maybe see why they are doing this.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:15 pm
by RunSup
Cranny wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:10 pm
Picklefork wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:04 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:00 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 12:53 pm
There are still 15 Top 100 draftees still on the board. Please pick one.
at this point....every team out there won't select those guys unless there is an agreed to contract in place.
Not until the 10th round, that is where they don't lose the allotted slot money. The kids that are still remaining from the top 100 will almost certainly forgo the draft and head to college or in Ford's case, transfer as a draft eligible soph.
Whether you agree or not with the strategy of the Cardinals draft process, you have to acknowledge they have smart people in place that know things that we don't, MLBTV, ESPN and bloggers don't.
What about the college guys in the Top 102 that are still there?
If they are HS or transfer portal players they may be getting NIL money from schools that invest in baseball.
May not be able to beat these salaries with slot money in the first 10 rounds. Not sure how far you can go with offers for picks 11-20
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:17 pm
by Melville
Absolut wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 08:58 am
Melville wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 08:39 am
Absolut wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 07:39 am
With all the talk of a generational pick for cards, did they play it too safe, trying to make sure they didn’t completely miss? Hernandez would have been the swing for the fences pick…
Franklin is not an example of "playing it too safe".
He is a high risk / high reward lottery ticket.
I was referring to Doyle, with their generational hasn’t happened in 27 years drafting this early pick.
Got it.
I thought you were referring to the overall strategy.
Doyle was unquestionably a very good pick.
Given the general condition of pitching depth (more correctly, the last thereof) in the organization, and considering all the starting pitchers they will lose in the next 27 months, it would have been incredibly stupid to not pick a top college arm and instead draft a far bigger question mark who would not be ready to contribute for 5 years or so.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:19 pm
by Picklefork
Graham was in the top 100 rankings before his injury....fyi
SPOKANE, Wash. – Gonzaga right-handed pitcher Payton Graham was named among the top 100 prospects for the 2025 Major League Baseball Draft, the MLB Pipeline announced on Dec. 5.
Graham enters his junior season for the Bulldogs in 2025, posting 67 strikeouts in just 60 and one-third career innings pitched. The Kennewick, Wash., native has appeared in 29 games across his first two seasons with three starts. He will enter 2025 as a key piece of Gonzaga's pitching staff, both from the bullpen and as a potential spot-starter.
In 2024, Graham was often the first out of the bullpen and one of GU's high-leverage arms. In a crucial West Coast Conference series against Portland, Graham entered game one with the Zags and Pilots tied at one, pitching three and a third innings while striking out three on just 36 pitches to close the door on an eventual 2-1 win.
Graham and the Bulldogs return to the diamond Feb. 14 as Gonzaga opens their 2025 season at UC Davis.
For a full look at MLB Pipeline's Top 100 Draft Prospects, click here.
https://gozags.com/news/2024/12/10/base ... pects.aspx
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:20 pm
by craviduce
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
by Cranny
There goes Jared Jones from LSU. 22 home runs and 76 RBI. OPS of 1.027 playing in the SEC.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:21 pm
by Swuhgen
They had five picks in a row of guys that were not rated even close to that high or not rated at all.
Pretty underwhelming and cheap.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:22 pm
by Cranny
Please pick Henry Ford from UVA.
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:23 pm
by Melville
Hoosier59 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 11:52 am
It would seem, the way they are drafting these unranked players now, that the Cardinals must be figuring it will take most of their money to sign their first three picks!
Bingo
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:23 pm
by craviduce
Cards, with their 9th round pick, select ~ Michael Dattalo, Dallas Baptist, 3B, RHB ...6'0"
Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT
Posted: 14 Jul 2025 13:25 pm
by craviduce
Cranny wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025 13:22 pm
Please pick Henry Ford from UVA.
he transferred to Tennessee, going to play his Junior season for Coach Tony.