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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:13 am
by JDW
Picklefork wrote: 14 Jul 2025 09:54 am My 2 cents or noncent's depending on who you ask?

First of all this draft feels different, almost like they focused on statistical outliers and asked what can we do with these talents? A real upside draft that can lead to rare talents or a lesson in why trusting data instead of scouting 101 can be fools gold. We won't know until we know, obviously but at least they seem to have a plan this time around. This draft so far will be test on the player development side, especially with the 2 Volunteer power arms

1st.....Doyle has a John Rocker floor with lefty Spencer Strider upside, if we'd taken that profile in last years draft I would've pitched forked my way to Flores's office, but in this draft it sure seemed like a good use of a draft pick.

2nd.....The Mitchell kid has a hit tool w/o much of a defensive home. But as they say, the bat plays and they'll figure out what to do with him if he does hit. I'd rather take a kid like this all day over a 5 tool guy that they hope the hit tool clicks (i.e. Chase Davis)

3rd.....Tanner dude is one of those lottery tix kind of selections, odds are it's not going to work but if it does you can life off that prize for awhile. He is either going to be Jeff Samardzija or Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh.......you can't teach that arm, but maybe you can teach them how to harness that talent?

4. Gurevitch is the most typical Cards profile so far of this draft. He is in the Allen Craig, Burleson mold...the simple see ball, hit ball hard and we'll worry about the whole where do we play them part later? This dude is too short to play 1B, isn't athletic enough, chases too much.....yadayada, but if he hits it works. .....See Justin Turner.

As for the remaining pics today, stick with the outliers, find the 70 arms, legs and trust that your development process that you say you've made a priority can develop this skills.

PS....reminds me of the draft I destroyed the Cards for taking Joe Kelly in, b/c his draft profile in terms of stats, competition etc was crapola, but the scouting dept saw a 70 arm with a solid mentality (Joe's a wacky dude but tough minded), something you can't see on baseballreference.com....so find those type of guys and use your system to develop what they do.....easy, right?!

PS #2....anyone else think Liam Doyle looks like actor who played the Joker in the latest Batman, Paul Dano? Just sayin
Nice write, and good to see you post.
Hope you come around more often.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:13 am
by BrockFloodMaris
The first round (30 picks) saw (15) Shortstops picked, along with nine pitchers.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:21 am
by craviduce
JDW wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:13 am
Picklefork wrote: 14 Jul 2025 09:54 am My 2 cents or noncent's depending on who you ask?

First of all this draft feels different, almost like they focused on statistical outliers and asked what can we do with these talents? A real upside draft that can lead to rare talents or a lesson in why trusting data instead of scouting 101 can be fools gold. We won't know until we know, obviously but at least they seem to have a plan this time around. This draft so far will be test on the player development side, especially with the 2 Volunteer power arms

1st.....Doyle has a John Rocker floor with lefty Spencer Strider upside, if we'd taken that profile in last years draft I would've pitched forked my way to Flores's office, but in this draft it sure seemed like a good use of a draft pick.

2nd.....The Mitchell kid has a hit tool w/o much of a defensive home. But as they say, the bat plays and they'll figure out what to do with him if he does hit. I'd rather take a kid like this all day over a 5 tool guy that they hope the hit tool clicks (i.e. Chase Davis)

3rd.....Tanner dude is one of those lottery tix kind of selections, odds are it's not going to work but if it does you can life off that prize for awhile. He is either going to be Jeff Samardzija or Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh.......you can't teach that arm, but maybe you can teach them how to harness that talent?

4. Gurevitch is the most typical Cards profile so far of this draft. He is in the Allen Craig, Burleson mold...the simple see ball, hit ball hard and we'll worry about the whole where do we play them part later? This dude is too short to play 1B, isn't athletic enough, chases too much.....yadayada, but if he hits it works. .....See Justin Turner.

As for the remaining pics today, stick with the outliers, find the 70 arms, legs and trust that your development process that you say you've made a priority can develop this skills.

PS....reminds me of the draft I destroyed the Cards for taking Joe Kelly in, b/c his draft profile in terms of stats, competition etc was crapola, but the scouting dept saw a 70 arm with a solid mentality (Joe's a wacky dude but tough minded), something you can't see on baseballreference.com....so find those type of guys and use your system to develop what they do.....easy, right?!

PS #2....anyone else think Liam Doyle looks like actor who played the Joker in the latest Batman, Paul Dano? Just sayin
Nice write, and good to see you post.
Hope you come around more often.
amen, we miss pickle and his avatar.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:26 am
by craviduce
Day 2.... FIGHT!!!

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Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:28 am
by craviduce
Round 4-20

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:33 am
by Cranny
Still Available?

Mason Neville
Zach Root
Beandon Compton
Henry Ford
Gavin Turley
Daniel Dickerson
Korbyn Dickerson
Colin Yeaman
Luke Hill
Jared Jones

All college bats.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:33 am
by craviduce
Cranny wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:33 am Still Available?

Mason Neville
Zach Root
Beandon Compton
Henry Ford
Gavin Turley
Daniel Dickerson
Korbyn Dickerson
Colin Yeaman
Luke Hill
Jared Jones

All college bats.
wasn't Root drafted? Dodgers

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:39 am
by Cranny
craviduce wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:33 am
Cranny wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:33 am Still Available?

Mason Neville
Zach Root
Beandon Compton
Henry Ford
Gavin Turley
Daniel Dickerson
Korbyn Dickerson
Colin Yeaman
Luke Hill
Jared Jones

All college bats.
wasn't Root drafted? Dodgers
Yes. Thank you.

Turley just went to the A's. 20 home run power.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:41 am
by Cranny
There goes Neville. Hit 26 home runs this season for Oregon.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:41 am
by Picklefork
Cranny wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:39 am
craviduce wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:33 am
Cranny wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:33 am Still Available?

Mason Neville
Zach Root
Beandon Compton
Henry Ford
Gavin Turley
Daniel Dickerson
Korbyn Dickerson
Colin Yeaman
Luke Hill
Jared Jones

All college bats.
wasn't Root drafted? Dodgers
Yes. Thank you.

Turley just went to the A's. 20 home run power.
Not to mix sports, but the A's have had a very Baltimore Raven kind of draft. Just seemed to have what works for them really well, fall right into their laps.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:43 am
by craviduce
Jacob Parker....or Korbyn Dickerson

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:44 am
by Cranny
Korbyn Dickerson is still there. 19 home runs for Indiana.

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:45 am
by craviduce
Cards with the 4th Round, 120nd pick, select ~ Cade Crossland LHP, OU

6'2"

Braden Davis, Jimmy Crooks III ....Boomer Sooner :roll:

High 90's fastball

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:46 am
by Cranny
Why do they refuse to draft college power bats?

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:48 am
by CNYFan
Lefthander out of Oklahoma. Pitched injured all year. High grade on the change up, Crossland

Re: GDT : MLB Draft (7/13-14) ~ 5:00pm CDT

Posted: 14 Jul 2025 10:49 am
by Voldemort
Cranny wrote: 14 Jul 2025 10:46 am Why do they refuse to draft college power bats?
Unbelievable! It isn't like they have power bats in the system that are sure things.