I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:20 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:19 pm
Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:14 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:04 pm If you're worried about his defense with an OPS of .850 then you should start posting on a board with a different sport.
I don’t see anyone “worried” here, so you’re talking to yourself.
No I'm talking to those (bleep) about something that is miniscule when looking at players with those numbers offensively.

You're included.
So you ignore defense in a players value because he hits well. Neat
Hes not a "bad" defender. Hes not Keith Hernandez, but hes solid. Crazy that there's even discussion that his defense is not good enough for MLB.
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:48 pm
Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:20 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:19 pm
Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:14 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:04 pm If you're worried about his defense with an OPS of .850 then you should start posting on a board with a different sport.
I don’t see anyone “worried” here, so you’re talking to yourself.
No I'm talking to those (bleep) about something that is miniscule when looking at players with those numbers offensively.

You're included.
So you ignore defense in a players value because he hits well. Neat
Hes not a "bad" defender. Hes not Keith Hernandez, but hes solid. Crazy that there's even discussion that his defense is not good enough for MLB.
He's far from "solid"...defensive metrics show this. He does well with balls hit right at him...so he's better than Jose Martinez was at 1B. To his left and to his right, he has very bad range.

He's no Willson Contreras, He's no Paul Goldschmidt, He's a smidge under Matt Carpenter, He's no Albert Pujols.

Defensive Metrics puts him 18th of 20 qualified 1B in the Majors Leagues.
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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Ace Hollister wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:59 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:47 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:41 pm 3 year, 60 mil. Buying out last two years, of course.

If he doesn't take it, listen to offers this winter.
Listen to offers and move your best hitter a d start over? Am I on a Pirate msg board?
I didn’t say ‘move’. I said ‘listen.’

And let’s pump the brakes a little. Is AB our best hitter or hottest hitter?

Ops in July: .751.
Ops on July 30: .801

Ops in August: around 1.250 with a .350 BA.


AB is white hot right now. I just don’t think any good player is a hot month away from getting a $100mil extension.

Would like to see how the rest of the year plays out, and maybe even the beginning of next year.

Just admit you were wrong and Shady was right.
Right about what? His hitting in 2023-2024? Sorry bud
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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Only drawback is his body

It will wear down quick after 30
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:59 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:47 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:41 pm 3 year, 60 mil. Buying out last two years, of course.

If he doesn't take it, listen to offers this winter.
Listen to offers and move your best hitter a d start over? Am I on a Pirate msg board?
I didn’t say ‘move’. I said ‘listen.’

And let’s pump the brakes a little. Is AB our best hitter or hottest hitter?

Ops in July: .751.
Ops on July 30: .801

Ops in August: around 1.250 with a .350 BA.


AB is white hot right now. I just don’t think any good player is a hot month away from getting a $100mil extension.

Would like to see how the rest of the year plays out, and maybe even the beginning of next year.
If youre listening to offers, youre considering moving him. If you trade Burly, you're not getting a player who's ready to step in and play. Youre getting a player 2-3 years away. That is the Pirates. Always 2-3 years away.

As for him being white hot now ? thats why they stat players on a season, and not per month. All players get hot, and get cold. And yes, he is their best hitter.

As for waiting to see this year, and next? Thats where a GM either succeeds, or fails. Waiting could either save money, or price him right out of their budget. Tough call there for a GM. When to talk extension. Many backfire both ways. For a mid market team, they need to get it right. Few teams can afford a debacle like the Dodgers made with Kyle Tucker.
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 18:03 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:59 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:47 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:41 pm 3 year, 60 mil. Buying out last two years, of course.

If he doesn't take it, listen to offers this winter.
Listen to offers and move your best hitter a d start over? Am I on a Pirate msg board?
I didn’t say ‘move’. I said ‘listen.’

And let’s pump the brakes a little. Is AB our best hitter or hottest hitter?

Ops in July: .751.
Ops on July 30: .801

Ops in August: around 1.250 with a .350 BA.


AB is white hot right now. I just don’t think any good player is a hot month away from getting a $100mil extension.

Would like to see how the rest of the year plays out, and maybe even the beginning of next year.
If youre listening to offers, youre considering moving him. If you trade Burly, you're not getting a player who's ready to step in and play. Youre getting a player 2-3 years away. That is the Pirates. Always 2-3 years away.

As for him being white hot now ? thats why they stat players on a season, and not per month. All players get hot, and get cold. And yes, he is their best hitter.

As for waiting to see this year, and next? Thats where a GM either succeeds, or fails. Waiting could either save money, or price him right out of their budget. Tough call there for a GM. When to talk extension. Many backfire both ways. For a mid market team, they need to get it right. Few teams can afford a debacle like the Dodgers made with Kyle Tucker.
That’s presumptuous. We traded Matz for a player ready in 9 1/2 months. Not sure why trading a much better player means waiting 2-3 years.
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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craviduce wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:52 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:48 pm
Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:20 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:19 pm
Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:14 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:04 pm If you're worried about his defense with an OPS of .850 then you should start posting on a board with a different sport.
I don’t see anyone “worried” here, so you’re talking to yourself.
No I'm talking to those (bleep) about something that is miniscule when looking at players with those numbers offensively.

You're included.
So you ignore defense in a players value because he hits well. Neat
Hes not a "bad" defender. Hes not Keith Hernandez, but hes solid. Crazy that there's even discussion that his defense is not good enough for MLB.
He's far from "solid"...defensive metrics show this. He does well with balls hit right at him...so he's better than Jose Martinez was at 1B. To his left and to his right, he has very bad range.

He's no Willson Contreras, He's no Paul Goldschmidt, He's a smidge under Matt Carpenter, He's no Albert Pujols.

Defensive Metrics puts him 18th of 20 qualified 1B in the Majors Leagues.
Does 18th out of 20 make him bad?? Or does it simply mean 17 are better defensively?
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 18:14 pm
craviduce wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:52 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:48 pm
Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:20 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:19 pm
Horseradish wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:14 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 17 Aug 2026 14:04 pm If you're worried about his defense with an OPS of .850 then you should start posting on a board with a different sport.
I don’t see anyone “worried” here, so you’re talking to yourself.
No I'm talking to those (bleep) about something that is miniscule when looking at players with those numbers offensively.

You're included.
So you ignore defense in a players value because he hits well. Neat
Hes not a "bad" defender. Hes not Keith Hernandez, but hes solid. Crazy that there's even discussion that his defense is not good enough for MLB.
He's far from "solid"...defensive metrics show this. He does well with balls hit right at him...so he's better than Jose Martinez was at 1B. To his left and to his right, he has very bad range.

He's no Willson Contreras, He's no Paul Goldschmidt, He's a smidge under Matt Carpenter, He's no Albert Pujols.

Defensive Metrics puts him 18th of 20 qualified 1B in the Majors Leagues.
Does 18th out of 20 make him bad?? Or does it simply mean 17 are better defensively?
come on...he's not good, he's not average...so he's well below average.

We're fans, I'm guilty of it, too... playing well with the bat makes us overlook the bad, and add superlatives that aren't earned.

Really, Really good bat....average with the scoop on received throws, very bad on batted balls in his vicinity.
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:55 pm
Ace Hollister wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:59 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:47 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:41 pm 3 year, 60 mil. Buying out last two years, of course.

If he doesn't take it, listen to offers this winter.
Listen to offers and move your best hitter a d start over? Am I on a Pirate msg board?
I didn’t say ‘move’. I said ‘listen.’

And let’s pump the brakes a little. Is AB our best hitter or hottest hitter?

Ops in July: .751.
Ops on July 30: .801

Ops in August: around 1.250 with a .350 BA.


AB is white hot right now. I just don’t think any good player is a hot month away from getting a $100mil extension.

Would like to see how the rest of the year plays out, and maybe even the beginning of next year.

Just admit you were wrong and Shady was right.
Right about what? His hitting in 2023-2024? Sorry bud
At least you’re consistent with being wrong. Bud
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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Ace Hollister wrote: 17 Aug 2026 18:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:55 pm
Ace Hollister wrote: 17 Aug 2026 17:35 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:59 pm
RamFan08NY wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:47 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 17 Aug 2026 15:41 pm 3 year, 60 mil. Buying out last two years, of course.

If he doesn't take it, listen to offers this winter.
Listen to offers and move your best hitter a d start over? Am I on a Pirate msg board?
I didn’t say ‘move’. I said ‘listen.’

And let’s pump the brakes a little. Is AB our best hitter or hottest hitter?

Ops in July: .751.
Ops on July 30: .801

Ops in August: around 1.250 with a .350 BA.


AB is white hot right now. I just don’t think any good player is a hot month away from getting a $100mil extension.

Would like to see how the rest of the year plays out, and maybe even the beginning of next year.

Just admit you were wrong and Shady was right.
Right about what? His hitting in 2023-2024? Sorry bud
At least you’re consistent with being wrong. Bud
What have I been wrong about?
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Re: I think you have to lock Burly up for ~5 years

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