is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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casey1024 wrote: 31 Jul 2026 03:27 am With all due respect......the guy is a rookie. Most tend to struggle in their first trip. I remember a guy that came up, I think in 1959, and his first year had a 5+ ERA. His name was Robert Gibson. Let him get his feet wet and let's see what happens.
1 Gastelum's ERA is more than 5+
2 - he doesn't have do get his feet wet only in tie and 1 run games.
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 10:42 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 21:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:24 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:35 pm No, the cupboard is not bare. There are a lot of candidates in the pipeline. Not all will make the cut, but the only way we'll know if they can make the cut is by sticking them into situations where they have to sink or swim. And we can expect a learning curve on top of that.

As a fan it behooves us to be patient with the process or go find something else to do, else we drive ourselves mad.
There should be a way to see if these guys have it before they blow this many games at the ML level. Its called the minors.

If that's not working then pay some $$ and hire a few arms. BDW isn't poor.
You know as well as I do that success in the minors doesn't always translate to success in the majors. There is only one way to find out and that's to play him.
Maybe find out in lower leverage situations, on the road, not playing our arch rival the cubs, in extras....

For some reason we seem to be "Finding Out" a lot more often than our opponents are "finding out" at inopportune times against us.
Exactly cards talk still has some brilliant ppl. It’s unbelievable to just throw Gastelum back out there to serve it up to the small bears
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 10:42 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 21:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:24 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:35 pm No, the cupboard is not bare. There are a lot of candidates in the pipeline. Not all will make the cut, but the only way we'll know if they can make the cut is by sticking them into situations where they have to sink or swim. And we can expect a learning curve on top of that.

As a fan it behooves us to be patient with the process or go find something else to do, else we drive ourselves mad.
There should be a way to see if these guys have it before they blow this many games at the ML level. Its called the minors.

If that's not working then pay some $$ and hire a few arms. BDW isn't poor.
You know as well as I do that success in the minors doesn't always translate to success in the majors. There is only one way to find out and that's to play him.
Maybe find out in lower leverage situations, on the road, not playing our arch rival the cubs, in extras....

For some reason we seem to be "Finding Out" a lot more often than our opponents are "finding out" at inopportune times against us.
You won't see me defending the Marmot's bullpen management, it's terrible and always has been, but the only way you get how a young guy is going to hold up on high-leverage situations is to stick him into high-leverage situation. At last one, for cryin' out loud.
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 31 Jul 2026 21:03 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 10:42 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 21:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:24 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:35 pm No, the cupboard is not bare. There are a lot of candidates in the pipeline. Not all will make the cut, but the only way we'll know if they can make the cut is by sticking them into situations where they have to sink or swim. And we can expect a learning curve on top of that.

As a fan it behooves us to be patient with the process or go find something else to do, else we drive ourselves mad.
There should be a way to see if these guys have it before they blow this many games at the ML level. Its called the minors.

If that's not working then pay some $$ and hire a few arms. BDW isn't poor.
You know as well as I do that success in the minors doesn't always translate to success in the majors. There is only one way to find out and that's to play him.
Maybe find out in lower leverage situations, on the road, not playing our arch rival the cubs, in extras....

For some reason we seem to be "Finding Out" a lot more often than our opponents are "finding out" at inopportune times against us.
You won't see me defending the Marmot's bullpen management, it's terrible and always has been, but the only way you get how a young guy is going to hold up on high-leverage situations is to stick him into high-leverage situation. At last one, for cryin' out loud.
It’s technically possible to stick them into a low leverage situation and wait for them to turn it into a high leverage situation and then see if they can work their way out of it.

Helsley did that lots of times
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 21:05 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 31 Jul 2026 21:03 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 10:42 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 21:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:24 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:35 pm No, the cupboard is not bare. There are a lot of candidates in the pipeline. Not all will make the cut, but the only way we'll know if they can make the cut is by sticking them into situations where they have to sink or swim. And we can expect a learning curve on top of that.

As a fan it behooves us to be patient with the process or go find something else to do, else we drive ourselves mad.
There should be a way to see if these guys have it before they blow this many games at the ML level. Its called the minors.

If that's not working then pay some $$ and hire a few arms. BDW isn't poor.
You know as well as I do that success in the minors doesn't always translate to success in the majors. There is only one way to find out and that's to play him.
Maybe find out in lower leverage situations, on the road, not playing our arch rival the cubs, in extras....

For some reason we seem to be "Finding Out" a lot more often than our opponents are "finding out" at inopportune times against us.
You won't see me defending the Marmot's bullpen management, it's terrible and always has been, but the only way you get how a young guy is going to hold up on high-leverage situations is to stick him into high-leverage situation. At last one, for cryin' out loud.
It’s technically possible to stick them into a low leverage situation and wait for them to turn it into a high leverage situation and then see if they can work their way out of it.

Helsley did that lots of times
DFA’d the wrong man Gastelum is as bad as it get. Throws meatballs and Oli keeps wasting more runway on a bum
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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11WSChamps wrote: 29 Jul 2026 21:29 pm Part of all that depth fanboys were talking about prior to the season. :lol:
Will you shut up? You same the same thing in every post.
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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CrownRoyalCaramel wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:41 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 29 Jul 2026 21:29 pm Part of all that depth fanboys were talking about prior to the season. :lol:
Will you shut up? You same the same thing in every post.
I know knowledge and experience is impossible for you fanboys to take.

Learn the game then come back to the forum.
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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brucesutterHOF wrote: 31 Jul 2026 12:35 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 10:42 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 21:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:24 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:35 pm No, the cupboard is not bare. There are a lot of candidates in the pipeline. Not all will make the cut, but the only way we'll know if they can make the cut is by sticking them into situations where they have to sink or swim. And we can expect a learning curve on top of that.

As a fan it behooves us to be patient with the process or go find something else to do, else we drive ourselves mad.
There should be a way to see if these guys have it before they blow this many games at the ML level. Its called the minors.

If that's not working then pay some $$ and hire a few arms. BDW isn't poor.
You know as well as I do that success in the minors doesn't always translate to success in the majors. There is only one way to find out and that's to play him.
Maybe find out in lower leverage situations, on the road, not playing our arch rival the cubs, in extras....

For some reason we seem to be "Finding Out" a lot more often than our opponents are "finding out" at inopportune times against us.
Exactly cards talk still has some brilliant ppl. It’s unbelievable to just throw Gastelum back out there to serve it up to the small bears
Never underestimate the dumb[ash] of Oliver f. Marmol.
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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JuanAgosto wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:47 pm
brucesutterHOF wrote: 31 Jul 2026 12:35 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 10:42 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 21:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:24 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:35 pm No, the cupboard is not bare. There are a lot of candidates in the pipeline. Not all will make the cut, but the only way we'll know if they can make the cut is by sticking them into situations where they have to sink or swim. And we can expect a learning curve on top of that.

As a fan it behooves us to be patient with the process or go find something else to do, else we drive ourselves mad.
There should be a way to see if these guys have it before they blow this many games at the ML level. Its called the minors.

If that's not working then pay some $$ and hire a few arms. BDW isn't poor.
You know as well as I do that success in the minors doesn't always translate to success in the majors. There is only one way to find out and that's to play him.
Maybe find out in lower leverage situations, on the road, not playing our arch rival the cubs, in extras....

For some reason we seem to be "Finding Out" a lot more often than our opponents are "finding out" at inopportune times against us.
Exactly cards talk still has some brilliant ppl. It’s unbelievable to just throw Gastelum back out there to serve it up to the small bears
Never underestimate the dumb[ash] of Oliver f. Marmol.
Can't be doing much for the kids confidence with so much failure so soon.
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Re: is the cupboard that bare? Gastelum is awful

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11WSChamps wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:48 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 01 Aug 2026 16:47 pm
brucesutterHOF wrote: 31 Jul 2026 12:35 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 31 Jul 2026 10:42 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 21:53 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:24 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:35 pm No, the cupboard is not bare. There are a lot of candidates in the pipeline. Not all will make the cut, but the only way we'll know if they can make the cut is by sticking them into situations where they have to sink or swim. And we can expect a learning curve on top of that.

As a fan it behooves us to be patient with the process or go find something else to do, else we drive ourselves mad.
There should be a way to see if these guys have it before they blow this many games at the ML level. Its called the minors.

If that's not working then pay some $$ and hire a few arms. BDW isn't poor.
You know as well as I do that success in the minors doesn't always translate to success in the majors. There is only one way to find out and that's to play him.
Maybe find out in lower leverage situations, on the road, not playing our arch rival the cubs, in extras....

For some reason we seem to be "Finding Out" a lot more often than our opponents are "finding out" at inopportune times against us.
Exactly cards talk still has some brilliant ppl. It’s unbelievable to just throw Gastelum back out there to serve it up to the small bears
Never underestimate the dumb[ash] of Oliver f. Marmol.
Can't be doing much for the kids confidence with so much failure so soon.
Yet if he had success, oli would sit him a few days to "bask" in the positive. This fool doesn't understand momentum.