Kyrou trade speculation to ottawa

[Rollin' on the River]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

[Nublues69]

Then we can use our picks move up and get stenberg

If the Blues had #2 in this draft would you take 11,15,31,32 if you were a bubble team in a pillow soft division with a legit top 3 player in the world on your team?

The blues don’t have the ammo to get to 2 without feeling some real pain.

depends sharks pick is open

[STL fan in MN]

Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

Ok. But how does that support that other teams don’t view him as a 1C?

How does it not?

Those words are right from Armstrong’s mouth.

Easy. Hypothetically, we think he's the 5th best 1C in rhe League. Everyone else thinks he's somewhere between 10 and 15 overall.

We value him more than other teams, but they still view him as a 1C.

If he's a 3C, you should have NO PROBLEM naming 60 centers you'd rather have. I'll settle for half that.

Time to show your work.

Bingo. Someone got what I was saying. Just because Army holds him in a higher regard doesn’t automatically mean other GMs see Thomas in a whole tier lower. It could also absolutely mean they still see RT as a 1C but a bit lesser of one OR they see RT at the same caliber Army does but simply disagree with what his trade value is.

But also, that comment from Army was clearly meant to basically say “we’re not trading Thomas”. I wouldn’t read a whole lot more into it than that.

[Harry S Deals]

Over the last three years Thomas is 231 pts in 216 GP which puts him right there around 10th overall production by Center in the NHL. Hes been a bit dinged up but 1.07 p/gp is also about 10th in the NHL over the span of 23'-24' thru 25'-26'.
So this is exactly how i would view Thomas as a #1 center in the next group down from star centers. I would also add that it would not shock me to see Thomas go off for a big season if the #1 line were to continue to produce but he has to stay on the ice to do this

[noted]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

Nashville? Thomas is the 1C there. Please name 2 centers better than him on that team...
Tampa? I'll give you Point but Thomas and him are very close. Thomas is better than Cirelli

And again - your claim was Thomas is a 2c on the most teams. Shocker you can't name those teams...

[netboy65]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Well that's the dumbest thing I've read today

No, it’s a great idea, just stated wrong. Thomas is a #1 center, but if you could find someone even better to move him down to 2C, that’d be great.
Of course if we can’t find an available 2C, we’re sure not going to find a 1C, but it’s nice in theory.

[sdaltons]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

An early contender for today's stupidest post.

[dhsux]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Well that's the dumbest thing I've read today

No, it’s a great idea, just stated wrong. Thomas is a #1 center, but if you could find someone even better to move him down to 2C, that’d be great.
Of course if we can’t find an available 2C, we’re sure not going to find a 1C, but it’s nice in theory.

Right.

The thread has turned into a pretty and petty ridiculous "argument" over a valued player that is just not a problem, on the contrary.

Blues need another strong center they don't need a better center than Robert Thomas in any reasonable scheme of things.

[Harry S Deals]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

Nashville? Thomas is the 1C there. Please name 2 centers better than him on that team...
Tampa? I'll give you Point but Thomas and him are very close. Thomas is better than Cirelli

And again - your claim was Thomas is a 2c on the most teams. Shocker you can't name those teams...

Lol, so good....

Dal Duchene vs Thomas??? FAIL
Nashville ROR vs Thomas??? FAIL
TB Cirelli vs Thomas??? FAIL
Oilers Yea i guess if we are saying Leon is the #2 center but mostly RNH is the #2 center...vs Thomas??? FAIL

[Rollin' on the River]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

Nashville? Thomas is the 1C there. Please name 2 centers better than him on that team...
Tampa? I'll give you Point but Thomas and him are very close. Thomas is better than Cirelli

And again - your claim was Thomas is a 2c on the most teams. Shocker you can't name those teams...

Stamkos, O’Reilly.

I disagree on Cirelli.

and I already NAMED the teams last week.

I mean looking at line combos, he’s easily a 2C on a lot of teams. He’d be a winger on Buffalo. He’s not better than Tage Thompson, Konsta Helenius, or Josh Norris.

Carolina he’s a winger or doesn’t even make the team.

Colorado-AHL or wing

Dallas 3C or wing

Florida-AHL or wing

Devils 3C

Islanders 3C

Rangers 3C or Wing

Ottawa 3C or Wing

Philadelphia 3C

SJ-AHL or Wing

Toronto 3C or Wing

VGK- AHL

Wash-Wing

[Rollin' on the River]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

Nashville? Thomas is the 1C there. Please name 2 centers better than him on that team...
Tampa? I'll give you Point but Thomas and him are very close. Thomas is better than Cirelli

And again - your claim was Thomas is a 2c on the most teams. Shocker you can't name those teams...

Lol, so good....

Dal Duchene vs Thomas??? FAIL
Nashville ROR vs Thomas??? FAIL
TB Cirelli vs Thomas??? FAIL
Oilers Yea i guess if we are saying Leon is the #2 center but mostly RNH is the #2 center...vs Thomas??? FAIL

Dallas-Johnson Hintz Duchense

Nashville-ROR, Stamkos
TB-Cirelli is significantly better. Sorry you’re clouded by Army

[Younghopp1991]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

Nashville? Thomas is the 1C there. Please name 2 centers better than him on that team...
Tampa? I'll give you Point but Thomas and him are very close. Thomas is better than Cirelli

And again - your claim was Thomas is a 2c on the most teams. Shocker you can't name those teams...

Stamkos, O’Reilly.

I disagree on Cirelli.

and I already NAMED the teams last week.

I mean looking at line combos, he’s easily a 2C on a lot of teams. He’d be a winger on Buffalo. He’s not better than Tage Thompson, Konsta Helenius, or Josh Norris.

Carolina he’s a winger or doesn’t even make the team.

Colorado-AHL or wing

Dallas 3C or wing

Florida-AHL or wing

Devils 3C

Islanders 3C

Rangers 3C or Wing

Ottawa 3C or Wing

Philadelphia 3C

SJ-AHL or Wing

Toronto 3C or Wing

VGK- AHL

Wash-Wing

Dude you just say things for a laugh. You are naming primary wingers and saying they would push thomas down. You are just trolling to troll.

[BleedingBleu]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

Nashville? Thomas is the 1C there. Please name 2 centers better than him on that team...
Tampa? I'll give you Point but Thomas and him are very close. Thomas is better than Cirelli

And again - your claim was Thomas is a 2c on the most teams. Shocker you can't name those teams...

Is Brayden Point truly better? Both he and Thomas played the same amount of games, and you could easily argue the Bolts are more loaded than the Blues, yet Point put up just 50 points on a 106 point team and Thomas came in w/a PPG on an 87 point team.

The Lightning haven’t won a Playoff Series since Stamkos was still on the team

[SameOldBlues]

You might get Hensler but you aren't getting Yakemchuk.

Only reply ive read so far, but it sums up my first take too. Gettin Yakky here to play with Snuggy, Holly, etc. is a wet dream Im afraid is just too much fantasyland, and while Hensler is definitely more plausible, he’s a plain jane player who does most things ok but nothing great, and its all for naught anyhoo since Special K would just invoke his good ol’ F U clause even if the two sides could come to an agreement.

Awesome thought tho. Jiricek, Mailloux and Yak on our backend? HEAVENS TO BETSY, as Grandma used to say

[Rollin' on the River]

I don’t care who we trade or to who we trade to…. We HAVE to get a number 2C to slot be hind #18!

Or you find a team with 2 number ones and move Thomas to the 2nd line where he actually belongs.

Wrong.

Look Ace. Fact is on most teams Thomas is a 2C and a on a few he’s a 3C or plays wing.

It’s ok to acknowledge that. Even Armstrong said we value Thomas more than everyone else

The only team in the league you could say Thomas is a 3C on is the Oilers. You couldn’t name 16 teams (most teams) where Thomas would be a 2C.

Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Oilers, just off the top of my head. Where he’d be a 3C.

Nashville? Thomas is the 1C there. Please name 2 centers better than him on that team...
Tampa? I'll give you Point but Thomas and him are very close. Thomas is better than Cirelli

And again - your claim was Thomas is a 2c on the most teams. Shocker you can't name those teams...

Stamkos, O’Reilly.

I disagree on Cirelli.

and I already NAMED the teams last week.

I mean looking at line combos, he’s easily a 2C on a lot of teams. He’d be a winger on Buffalo. He’s not better than Tage Thompson, Konsta Helenius, or Josh Norris.

Carolina he’s a winger or doesn’t even make the team.

Colorado-AHL or wing

Dallas 3C or wing

Florida-AHL or wing

Devils 3C

Islanders 3C

Rangers 3C or Wing

Ottawa 3C or Wing

Philadelphia 3C

SJ-AHL or Wing

Toronto 3C or Wing

VGK- AHL

Wash-Wing

Dude you just say things for a laugh. You are naming primary wingers and saying they would push thomas down. You are just trolling to troll.

If you’ve got a problem with this list. Talk to Puck Pedia. They have lineups for every team with a full roster (meaning healthy)

I can’t help that you don’t like facts.

[George Zipp]

Good ole rollin is back to the point in his posting lifecycle where we are getting closer to his next meltdown, forum apology, ban or all of the above. For those of us who have been here as long as he has this stuff is like clockwork.

For a bit of posting recently he was being all deferential to other posters, open to other ideas etc. Clearly he was warned by the mods, for the 8 billionth time, to calm down. He calmed for a minute. And now? Back to his intentional horrible trolling takes "Thomas would be the 3rd line center on many teams, holloway is horrible, broberg blah blah blah etc etc" and back to fighting and bickering with just about the entire board in every freaking thread. The guy clearly gets off being contrarian because, tight life and all.

We've all seen this movie many times. Soon he's going to get banned again or we are going to see an apology post from him (I think we are at 3 or 4 of these historically) telling the board he will be a better person etc.

These goofs are nothing if not consistent.