Mathews

[dugoutrex]

First up may be Zimmerman.

Who?

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

thoughts and prayers - sounds like 30% of the population!

And you're in that precious one percent.

better than being in that 30% with a bunch of gumbys like you for sure

[11WSChamps]

First up may be Zimmerman.

Who?

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

thoughts and prayers - sounds like 30% of the population!

And you're in that precious one percent.

better than being in that 30% with a bunch of gumbys like you for sure

What 30% are you talking about?

You're melting again sonny.

Check your skirt.

[dugoutrex]

First up may be Zimmerman.

Who?

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

thoughts and prayers - sounds like 30% of the population!

And you're in that precious one percent.

better than being in that 30% with a bunch of gumbys like you for sure

What 30% are you talking about?

You're melting again sonny.

Check your skirt.

twice the man you will ever be gumby - shouldn't you be crying about litter boxes or something ?

[ClassicO]

A long way away.
Now 16 BB's issued in 15.2 innings this year.
After 74 in 99 innings a year ago.
I warned last offseason that he should be traded as part of a package before his stock fell even further.
Those who were foolishly expecting to see him in STL this year and contributing are going to be very disappointed.

He had very, very little trade value even then mel, nothing more than some other teams equally disappointing prospect.

I've moved on from him just as I have from Hence & Roby, they're nothing but lotto tickets now.

Almost all teams are reluctant to trade prospects at peak value - for understandable reasons.
However, I believe most organizations would do better, as I have long recommended, by heavily weighing risk factors.
Genuinely no intention of patting myself on the back, but Hence and Mathews are examples of pitchers I long ago recommended as trade pieces when their values were obviously inflated.
The same applies at the MLB level, when I advised trading the likes of Carpenter, Martinez, DeJong, Nootbaar, and O'Neill after weirdly suspicious break out periods (which were mirages) or very clear physical risk factors.
The organization would be in far better shape today if Super Slo Mo actually possessed the guts and intelligence to do as I advised.
I am very interested to observe Bloom in this area as well.

Edited for clarity.

You also advised:
Dakota Hudson was our most irreplaceable pitcher and would have a far better career than Flaherty.
Dylan Carlson was an All-Star.
Signing two pitiful, very expensive FAs - Conforto and Chris Taylor.
Signing Helsely for 4 years @$17M/yr.
Pages was as good as Pagnozzi (3X GG).
Scott would develop into a good hitter.
And of course: “There has never been a power-hitting LH 2b like [Gorman] in MLB history.”
And many, many more idiotic things.
I'm very happy the Cards have NEVER lacked the "intelligence to do as I advised."
Ha ha ha.

[11WSChamps]

Who?

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

thoughts and prayers - sounds like 30% of the population!

And you're in that precious one percent.

better than being in that 30% with a bunch of gumbys like you for sure

What 30% are you talking about?

You're melting again sonny.

Check your skirt.

twice the man you will ever be gumby - shouldn't you be crying about litter boxes or something ?

So you gutless coward you cant tell us who the 30% are?

Twice the man?

Says the twerp afraid of little Sophie C.

Keep hiding behind that keyboard boy.

[Talkin' Baseball]

In case anyone lost track while trying to follow along- the thread is about Quinn Mathews.

[11WSChamps]

In case anyone lost track while trying to follow along- the thread is about Quinn Mathews.

It was on track until lost boy attacked people.

[renostl]

In case anyone lost track while trying to follow along- the thread is about Quinn Mathews.

Who won't be in a trade unless the Cardinals are trading for
someone and he is needed as an addition.
Who should be kept and further developed over several currently on the 40.

[dugoutrex]

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

thoughts and prayers - sounds like 30% of the population!

And you're in that precious one percent.

better than being in that 30% with a bunch of gumbys like you for sure

What 30% are you talking about?

You're melting again sonny.

Check your skirt.

twice the man you will ever be gumby - shouldn't you be crying about litter boxes or something ?

So you gutless coward you cant tell us who the 30% are?

Twice the man?

Says the twerp afraid of little Sophie C.

Keep hiding behind that keyboard boy.

and you keep working, saving and investing - maybe someday you can join me big silly

[Melville]

In case anyone lost track while trying to follow along- the thread is about Quinn Mathews.

Correct.

[Melville]

In case anyone lost track while trying to follow along- the thread is about Quinn Mathews.

It was on track until lost boy attacked people.

Personal attacks are never justified.
Which is why I never do so.
But when others sink into such behavior, there is at least the benefit that it reveals flawed and unsavory character.

[Cranny]

First up may be Zimmerman.

Who?

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

Nothing new. That’s the way it is for prospects in all organizations.

[2ninr]

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First up may be Zimmerman.

Who?

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

Nothing new. That’s the way it is for prospects in all organizations.

Actually it's their best, most well thought out plans that fail.

[JDW]

Cards should keep Mathews. Sometimes lefties take longer to gain better control. Upside is there.

[Melville]

Cards should keep Mathews. Sometimes lefties take longer to gain better control. Upside is there.

He isn't going to make it.
STL lost a golden opportunity to trade him when his value was wildly over-inflated.

[11WSChamps]

First up may be Zimmerman.

Who?

Bruce Zimmerman. 31 year old lefty at Memphis, signed as a FA in the off season to provide some fill in experience for the younger guys. Has been the ace of the staff, with an ERA of 3.15.

Laugh all you want, 11, but he’s pitching well, and has some major league experience. I took your question as being sincere. My bad.

I am looking for honesty.

Where's all this depth people were talking about?

Hes just another guy off the street discarded by other teams. That's his history.

How many times have the Cards had a former Minor League Pitcher of the Year in the system. Ace potential if he can return to form. Keep him.

This organizations road for the last decade has been paved with hope and pray, hope and pray.

Nothing new. That’s the way it is for prospects in all organizations.

Yeah sure.

Picking up every low hanging has been for a bag of shells.

You'll have to do better than that.