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Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 08:18 am
by 82birds
btw, Urias is committed to play for Mexico in the World Baseball Classic.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 08:29 am
by 12xu
If this is a major league deal, it only makes sense if they are planning on using Urias as a starter at 3B, and that they are also not going to use Gorman at 3B much. So, that leads to the assumption that Gorman will be playing 2B, and that Wetherholt will start the season at Memphis. OR, that perhaps some team has offered a very strong offer for Gorman and Bloom is about to accept it. OR, they are planning on using Gorman at 1B, and moving Burleson over to LF.

If none of these options are valid, then the signing of Urias does not make good sense.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 08:55 am
by brock118
82birds wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:01 am
brock118 wrote: 21 Feb 2026 07:58 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 20 Feb 2026 17:34 pm Per Jeff Jones on X:

Sources say free agent INF Ramón Urías met with the Cardinals today and is closing in on a deal. Originally signed by St. Louis as a free agent from Mexico, the 31 year old righty had 11 HR and a .675 OPS for Baltimore and Houston in 2025.
Sounds like it is a minor league deal. A little surprising he had to settle for that, but makes more sense from Cardinals perspective.
nope. MLB deal.

latest this morning from MLBTR:

By Darragh McDonald | February 21, 2026 at 7:21am CDT

February 21: Urias is in the Cardinals’ clubhouse today, per an update from Jones. It’s expected that Urias and the Cardinals signed a major-league deal. Urias had his physical yesterday, according to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Yep that makes more sense. MLBTR had said earlier that it was a minor league deal and has scrapped that. Wouldn't think Urias would have to settle for a minor league deal. Not sure how this guy fits in our plans when we are trying to play the kids, he will be 32 in the summer.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 08:56 am
by 82birds
this just in:

By Darragh McDonald | February 21, 2026 at 8:38am CDT

February 21: Urías gets a one-year, $2MM guarantee, per Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic. That comes in the form of a $1.5MM salary in 2026 and a $500k buyout on a 2027 mutual option. Urías can earn up to $2MM in incentives based on plate appearances.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 08:58 am
by 82birds
so it indeed IS a MLB contract.
I wonder who gets dropped from the 40-man?

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 09:01 am
by brock118
82birds wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:58 am so it indeed IS a MLB contract.
I wonder who gets dropped from the 40-man?
Probably put Roby on 60 day or another pitcher like Hjerpe

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 09:02 am
by brock118
12xu wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:29 am If this is a major league deal, it only makes sense if they are planning on using Urias as a starter at 3B, and that they are also not going to use Gorman at 3B much. So, that leads to the assumption that Gorman will be playing 2B, and that Wetherholt will start the season at Memphis. OR, that perhaps some team has offered a very strong offer for Gorman and Bloom is about to accept it. OR, they are planning on using Gorman at 1B, and moving Burleson over to LF.

If none of these options are valid, then the signing of Urias does not make good sense.
I agree this move is very curious.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 09:03 am
by 82birds
per Goold, Urias will wear # 33

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 09:21 am
by scoutyjones2
Cards need another below average hitting utility player? An old one at that?

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 09:55 am
by Cardinals4Life
12xu wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:29 am If this is a major league deal, it only makes sense if they are planning on using Urias as a starter at 3B, and that they are also not going to use Gorman at 3B much. So, that leads to the assumption that Gorman will be playing 2B, and that Wetherholt will start the season at Memphis. OR, that perhaps some team has offered a very strong offer for Gorman and Bloom is about to accept it. OR, they are planning on using Gorman at 1B, and moving Burleson over to LF.

If none of these options are valid, then the signing of Urias does not make good sense.
That part is not happening.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 09:59 am
by RamFan08NY
12xu wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:29 am If this is a major league deal, it only makes sense if they are planning on using Urias as a starter at 3B, and that they are also not going to use Gorman at 3B much. So, that leads to the assumption that Gorman will be playing 2B, and that Wetherholt will start the season at Memphis. OR, that perhaps some team has offered a very strong offer for Gorman and Bloom is about to accept it. OR, they are planning on using Gorman at 1B, and moving Burleson over to LF.

If none of these options are valid, then the signing of Urias does not make good sense.
A former GG winner, hits RH, has a little pop, hits RH pitching, and can play 3b or 2b. How does adding a player with that resume not make sense? It would be nice to have a few of those players on the bench.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 10:03 am
by TraveledLessRoad
What's the downside? $2mil, maybe. Otherwise, he's a gold glove defender with above league average offense. We are young and have zero idea how Saggesse, Gorman, JJ or any of these other dudes are going to pan out. If the kids rise to the occasion, Ramon doesn't play much and spells them from time to time. If the kids flop, you have a viable 3rd, 2nd or 1st base option. He can also be flipped at the deadline as he was last year. Again, zero downside.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 10:09 am
by gpe13579
TraveledLessRoad wrote: 21 Feb 2026 10:03 am What's the downside? $2mil, maybe. Otherwise, he's a gold glove defender with above league average offense. We are young and have zero idea how Saggesse, Gorman, JJ or any of these other dudes are going to pan out. If the kids rise to the occasion, Ramon doesn't play much and spells them from time to time. If the kids flop, you have a viable 3rd, 2nd or 1st base option. He can also be flipped at the deadline as he was last year. Again, zero downside.
This seems like a reasonable take.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 10:13 am
by 12xu
RamFan08NY wrote: 21 Feb 2026 09:59 am
12xu wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:29 am If this is a major league deal, it only makes sense if they are planning on using Urias as a starter at 3B, and that they are also not going to use Gorman at 3B much. So, that leads to the assumption that Gorman will be playing 2B, and that Wetherholt will start the season at Memphis. OR, that perhaps some team has offered a very strong offer for Gorman and Bloom is about to accept it. OR, they are planning on using Gorman at 1B, and moving Burleson over to LF.

If none of these options are valid, then the signing of Urias does not make good sense.
A former GG winner, hits RH, has a little pop, hits RH pitching, and can play 3b or 2b. How does adding a player with that resume not make sense? It would be nice to have a few of those players on the bench.
All winter long, many of us have stressed how badly the Cardinals needed a RHH OF, which they have needed for years. They could have signed several good 30 year+ vets to fill that need for just a bit more than this IF has signed for. They already had Saggese, Fermin, and Gorman to play at 3B and/or 2B. When I and others posted about this, we were attacked by so many posters whose contention was that the Cards are in a rebuild, they don't need to sign old vets to keep the youngsters from getting PT.

Urias is not a bad UT IF, but seems to me that he was not the primary need for this team in 2026.

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 10:17 am
by 12xu
Cardinals4Life wrote: 21 Feb 2026 09:55 am
12xu wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:29 am If this is a major league deal, it only makes sense if they are planning on using Urias as a starter at 3B, and that they are also not going to use Gorman at 3B much. So, that leads to the assumption that Gorman will be playing 2B, and that Wetherholt will start the season at Memphis. OR, that perhaps some team has offered a very strong offer for Gorman and Bloom is about to accept it. OR, they are planning on using Gorman at 1B, and moving Burleson over to LF.

If none of these options are valid, then the signing of Urias does not make good sense.
That part is not happening.
Which "that part" are you referring to?

Re: Ramon Urias

Posted: 21 Feb 2026 10:33 am
by WaltsSuccessor
12xu wrote: 21 Feb 2026 10:13 am
RamFan08NY wrote: 21 Feb 2026 09:59 am
12xu wrote: 21 Feb 2026 08:29 am If this is a major league deal, it only makes sense if they are planning on using Urias as a starter at 3B, and that they are also not going to use Gorman at 3B much. So, that leads to the assumption that Gorman will be playing 2B, and that Wetherholt will start the season at Memphis. OR, that perhaps some team has offered a very strong offer for Gorman and Bloom is about to accept it. OR, they are planning on using Gorman at 1B, and moving Burleson over to LF.

If none of these options are valid, then the signing of Urias does not make good sense.
A former GG winner, hits RH, has a little pop, hits RH pitching, and can play 3b or 2b. How does adding a player with that resume not make sense? It would be nice to have a few of those players on the bench.
All winter long, many of us have stressed how badly the Cardinals needed a RHH OF, which they have needed for years. They could have signed several good 30 year+ vets to fill that need for just a bit more than this IF has signed for. They already had Saggese, Fermin, and Gorman to play at 3B and/or 2B. When I and others posted about this, we were attacked by so many posters whose contention was that the Cards are in a rebuild, they don't need to sign old vets to keep the youngsters from getting PT.

Urias is not a bad UT IF, but seems to me that he was not the primary need for this team in 2026.
Did any of those good 30+ year old vet RHH OFers sign for $2m?