Re: Is Burleson the future first baseman?
Posted: 13 Aug 2025 20:09 pm
Timeline of 2 seasons from now says this.
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Timeline of 2 seasons from now says this.
If that’s what you see then you’re f’ing blind.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:19 pmI see Burleson having 25 HR/85 RBI potential. And lots of doubles. That would be worthy of being the regular 1B when Contreras leaves.greyhawk wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:11 pmabsolutely not -- contreras was paid to produce these numbers as a catcher. i believe burleson is exactly what he has shown us the last 2 seasons -- he will have some hot streaks and some cold ones -- he won't get faster, his hands won't get softer and his bat will slow eventually. Burleson himself isn't the problem, the problem is this team may be forced to play him as the best alternative.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:16 pmSo what, he could be worth, production-wise, what Contreras is making. Don't you think?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:01 pmAt the conclusion of Contreras’s current contract, Burleson will be ARB-3 and starting to cost real money.
If Jordan is better than Burleson in two seasons from now. Hallelujah !renostl wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:09 pmTimeline of 2 seasons from now says this.
https://www.milb.com/video/blaze-jordan ... rid-691458
I could see the Cards asking WC to wave his NTC to open up 1B for a competition. I can also see AB being part of that competition. I can also see the Cards promoting or moving someone next year who outhits (OPS) AB and beats him out. Someone who can hit lefties and HITS LOTS OF BOMBS. Someone who is the player some around here wish and hope Burly was.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:11 pmIf that’s what you see then you’re f’ing blind.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:19 pmI see Burleson having 25 HR/85 RBI potential. And lots of doubles. That would be worthy of being the regular 1B when Contreras leaves.greyhawk wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:11 pmabsolutely not -- contreras was paid to produce these numbers as a catcher. i believe burleson is exactly what he has shown us the last 2 seasons -- he will have some hot streaks and some cold ones -- he won't get faster, his hands won't get softer and his bat will slow eventually. Burleson himself isn't the problem, the problem is this team may be forced to play him as the best alternative.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:16 pmSo what, he could be worth, production-wise, what Contreras is making. Don't you think?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:01 pmAt the conclusion of Contreras’s current contract, Burleson will be ARB-3 and starting to cost real money.
Wishing and having is the issue.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:17 pmI could see the Cards asking WC to wave his NTC to open up 1B for a competition. I can also see AB being part of that competition. I can also see the Cards promoting or moving someone next year who outhits (OPS) AB and beats him out. Someone who can hit lefties and HITS LOTS OF BOMBS. Someone who is the player some around here wish and hope Burly was.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:11 pmIf that’s what you see then you’re f’ing blind.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:19 pmI see Burleson having 25 HR/85 RBI potential. And lots of doubles. That would be worthy of being the regular 1B when Contreras leaves.greyhawk wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:11 pmabsolutely not -- contreras was paid to produce these numbers as a catcher. i believe burleson is exactly what he has shown us the last 2 seasons -- he will have some hot streaks and some cold ones -- he won't get faster, his hands won't get softer and his bat will slow eventually. Burleson himself isn't the problem, the problem is this team may be forced to play him as the best alternative.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:16 pmSo what, he could be worth, production-wise, what Contreras is making. Don't you think?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:01 pmAt the conclusion of Contreras’s current contract, Burleson will be ARB-3 and starting to cost real money.
"But lacks Power for a dude that big. Surprising with his contact skills he doesn't have 30 plus homers". I agree, We see flashes of that power potential, like today. Maybe it will improve.Dazepster wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:23 pm Not enough XBH for a 1B. Unless get a lot of that elsewhere and he is simply an OBP and Runs contributor. The Running part is a bit problematic.
In the Old Days and not really that long ago. He would be a situational pinch hitter off the bench. Occasional start at 1B. OF only by absolute necessity.
I like him. A lot. He can hit a bit. But lacks Power for a dude that big. Surprising with his contact skills he doesn't have 30 plus homers.
A Softball player that can hit a Baseball.
He one of the weakest bats on your team, you got a good offense. If he is one of the best bats on your team, your offense sucks.
You move him. Possibly this very off-season.
AB will never put up the numbers Shady cites unless he goes to Milwaukee or Cincinnati. I hope Bloom finds a sucker to trade a decent reliever for him instead of having him compete for an even bigger role.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:17 pmI could see the Cards asking WC to wave his NTC to open up 1B for a competition. I can also see AB being part of that competition. I can also see the Cards promoting or moving someone next year who outhits (OPS) AB and beats him out. Someone who can hit lefties and HITS LOTS OF BOMBS. Someone who is the player some around here wish and hope Burly was.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:11 pmIf that’s what you see then you’re f’ing blind.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:19 pmI see Burleson having 25 HR/85 RBI potential. And lots of doubles. That would be worthy of being the regular 1B when Contreras leaves.greyhawk wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:11 pmabsolutely not -- contreras was paid to produce these numbers as a catcher. i believe burleson is exactly what he has shown us the last 2 seasons -- he will have some hot streaks and some cold ones -- he won't get faster, his hands won't get softer and his bat will slow eventually. Burleson himself isn't the problem, the problem is this team may be forced to play him as the best alternative.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:16 pmSo what, he could be worth, production-wise, what Contreras is making. Don't you think?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:01 pmAt the conclusion of Contreras’s current contract, Burleson will be ARB-3 and starting to cost real money.
Your visions could save more payroll than moving NA since no money would need to be added.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:17 pmI could see the Cards asking WC to wave his NTC to open up 1B for a competition. I can also see AB being part of that competition. I can also see the Cards promoting or moving someone next year who outhits (OPS) AB and beats him out. Someone who can hit lefties and HITS LOTS OF BOMBS. Someone who is the player some around here wish and hope Burly was.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:11 pmIf that’s what you see then you’re f’ing blind.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:19 pmI see Burleson having 25 HR/85 RBI potential. And lots of doubles. That would be worthy of being the regular 1B when Contreras leaves.greyhawk wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:11 pmabsolutely not -- contreras was paid to produce these numbers as a catcher. i believe burleson is exactly what he has shown us the last 2 seasons -- he will have some hot streaks and some cold ones -- he won't get faster, his hands won't get softer and his bat will slow eventually. Burleson himself isn't the problem, the problem is this team may be forced to play him as the best alternative.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:16 pmSo what, he could be worth, production-wise, what Contreras is making. Don't you think?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:01 pmAt the conclusion of Contreras’s current contract, Burleson will be ARB-3 and starting to cost real money.
Burleson doesn't seem like a player that will be expensive any time soonCardinals1964 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 22:41 pmBy time the Cardinals are relevant, Burleson will be too old or too expensive.
Depends where you see the guys top I guess.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:36 pmAB will never put up the numbers Shady cites unless he goes to Milwaukee or Cincinnati. I hope Bloom finds a sucker to trade a decent reliever for him instead of having him compete for an even bigger role.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:17 pmI could see the Cards asking WC to wave his NTC to open up 1B for a competition. I can also see AB being part of that competition. I can also see the Cards promoting or moving someone next year who outhits (OPS) AB and beats him out. Someone who can hit lefties and HITS LOTS OF BOMBS. Someone who is the player some around here wish and hope Burly was.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 20:11 pmIf that’s what you see then you’re f’ing blind.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:19 pmI see Burleson having 25 HR/85 RBI potential. And lots of doubles. That would be worthy of being the regular 1B when Contreras leaves.greyhawk wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 18:11 pmabsolutely not -- contreras was paid to produce these numbers as a catcher. i believe burleson is exactly what he has shown us the last 2 seasons -- he will have some hot streaks and some cold ones -- he won't get faster, his hands won't get softer and his bat will slow eventually. Burleson himself isn't the problem, the problem is this team may be forced to play him as the best alternative.Shady wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:16 pmSo what, he could be worth, production-wise, what Contreras is making. Don't you think?NYCardsFan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2025 17:01 pmAt the conclusion of Contreras’s current contract, Burleson will be ARB-3 and starting to cost real money.
He was allowed to consistently develop and suck and work his up to mediocre in ways others weren’t. He’s been the only young player other than Masyn Winn who was actually given any real “runway” without fear of demotion.
Worst everyday Cardinal player since Aaron Miles.