Charles King wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 16:25 pm
Scott needs to work on bunting
If he could get a few bunt hits a week
That and hitting down on the ball more often (picking his moments when to muscle up) to utilize his great speed.
Yes!
It pains me every time he hits a lazy fly ball.
He should be wracking up IF hits which then turn into doubles!
I confess to having zero knowledge of Church other than his stats which are impressive.
Too bad he doesn’t hit RH.
Changes coming in the offseason. Nootbaar to me is redundant and a tease.
We are overloaded already with LH bats and more(JJ/Crooks) on the way.
If Arenado is still here(and that is becoming more and more likely) the arrival of JJ pushes Donovan to the OF. You also have Burleson who is a superior hitter to Noot.
And you also have Gorman who despite his frustrations I’d certainly keep over Noot.
Again... wish Church hit RH.
Remember the bet Whitey had w/Ozzie?
Hopefully they have someone work w/him on both is bunting and hitting down on the ball more often this spring, keeping the ball on the ground more while pressuring infielders into rushed errors or infield hits!
No....I don’t remember the bet with Ozzie.
Maybe we need the Lou Brown Treatment used with Willie Mays Hayes?
$1 for Whitey each ball Ozzie hit in the air............$1 for Ozzie for each ball he kept on the ground or was a hit.
Charles King wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 16:25 pm
Scott needs to work on bunting
If he could get a few bunt hits a week
That and hitting down on the ball more often (picking his moments when to muscle up) to utilize his great speed.
Yes!
It pains me every time he hits a lazy fly ball.
He should be wracking up IF hits which then turn into doubles!
I confess to having zero knowledge of Church other than his stats which are impressive.
Too bad he doesn’t hit RH.
Changes coming in the offseason. Nootbaar to me is redundant and a tease.
We are overloaded already with LH bats and more(JJ/Crooks) on the way.
If Arenado is still here(and that is becoming more and more likely) the arrival of JJ pushes Donovan to the OF. You also have Burleson who is a superior hitter to Noot.
And you also have Gorman who despite his frustrations I’d certainly keep over Noot.
Again... wish Church hit RH.
Remember the bet Whitey had w/Ozzie?
Hopefully they have someone work w/him on both is bunting and hitting down on the ball more often this spring, keeping the ball on the ground more while pressuring infielders into rushed errors or infield hits!
No....I don’t remember the bet with Ozzie.
Maybe we need the Lou Brown Treatment used with Willie Mays Hayes?
$1 for Whitey each ball Ozzie hit in the air............$1 for Ozzie for each ball he kept on the ground or was a hit.
clayton888 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 16:14 pm
I don’t understand why Church hasn’t been promoted and playing centerfield. He has torn up AAA/AA and plays at least as good an outfield as Scott and Scott, as the Fox announcers said last Friday, is the second worst offensive producer in MLB. It’s past time to move on there and give Church a six week look.
If he plays at least as good of an OF as Scott then he must be the best CF in the game. Scott ranks 3rd in OAA among all MLB OFers behind PCA and Ceddanne Rafaela.
Scott’s biggest issue right now is power. His BB rate is nearly 10%, he has 31 SBs in 33 attempts, and he’s playing a stellar CF defense. If he could hit for any power (.307 SLG%), he’d be fine.
at this point scott is not a major league starting CF....his OPS is that of a pitcher
greyhawk wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 18:38 pm
i realize he isn't on the 40 man roster but why are Hampson and Siani on it still?? this one is baffling as to why he hasn't gotten some run.
Cuz all hampson is askednto do is ride the bench and be defensive sub or pinch runner. You want to bring up a rookie to ride the bench and just be a defensive sub and pinch runner?
nope - was just pointing out that if church not being on the 40 man is why they aren't bringing him up to play him those two are options a and b to be removed from the 40 man roster.
greyhawk wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 18:38 pm
i realize he isn't on the 40 man roster but why are Hampson and Siani on it still?? this one is baffling as to why he hasn't gotten some run.
Cuz all hampson is askednto do is ride the bench and be defensive sub or pinch runner. You want to bring up a rookie to ride the bench and just be a defensive sub and pinch runner?
nope - was just pointing out that if church not being on the 40 man is why they aren't bringing him up to play him those two are options a and b to be removed from the 40 man roster.
He is going to have to be added to the 40-man anyway, or he would be left unprotected.
clayton888 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 16:14 pm
I don’t understand why Church hasn’t been promoted and playing centerfield. He has torn up AAA/AA and plays at least as good an outfield as Scott and Scott, as the Fox announcers said last Friday, is the second worst offensive producer in MLB. It’s past time to move on there and give Church a six week look.
If he plays at least as good of an OF as Scott then he must be the best CF in the game. Scott ranks 3rd in OAA among all MLB OFers behind PCA and Ceddanne Rafaela.
Scott’s biggest issue right now is power. His BB rate is nearly 10%, he has 31 SBs in 33 attempts, and he’s playing a stellar CF defense. If he could hit for any power (.307 SLG%), he’d be fine.
at this point scott is not a major league starting CF....his OPS is that of a pitcher
It’s not THAT bad. It’s still above .600. And his OBP of .309 (entering today) with his speed and defense is fine. There are worse hitters hitting for division leaders that don’t have the same level of defense or speed that Scott has. Which is why his WAR is one of the best on the team.
3B Joey Ortiz, Milwaukee: .610 OPS
SS Trey Sweeney, Detroit: .577 OPS
LF Michael Conforto, LA Dodgers: .627 OPS
CF Victor Scott II, STL: .618 OPS
CF Tyrone Taylor, NY Mets: .546 OPS
Across 50 starts from mid-April to mid-June in Peoria in 2023, Church reached base safely in 48 games. He hit .359/.442/.467/.909 (160 wRC+) over ~225 PA's during that stretch, with more bb than k
He reached base safely in 19 of 20 games in April in Springfield in 2024, hitting .349/.402/.512/.914 (150 wRC+) over ~100 PA's, with more bb than k. Won POTM for the month. Just as a funny coincidence, he also hit .341/.405/.515/.920 across 3 seasons at UC Irvine. What are the odds of that batting line, ha
May 2025 in Springfield he hit .357/.407/.602/1.009 (175 wRC+) over ~100 PA's, with more bb than k. Won POTM for the month
June 2025 in Memphis he hit .358/.435/.617/1.052 (175 wRC+) over ~100 PA's, with more bb than k
Obviously not this good all the time, but he has shown glimpses of the bat
clayton888 wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 16:14 pm
I don’t understand why Church hasn’t been promoted and playing centerfield. He has torn up AAA/AA and plays at least as good an outfield as Scott and Scott, as the Fox announcers said last Friday, is the second worst offensive producer in MLB. It’s past time to move on there and give Church a six week look.
If he plays at least as good of an OF as Scott then he must be the best CF in the game. Scott ranks 3rd in OAA among all MLB OFers behind PCA and Ceddanne Rafaela.
Scott’s biggest issue right now is power. His BB rate is nearly 10%, he has 31 SBs in 33 attempts, and he’s playing a stellar CF defense. If he could hit for any power (.307 SLG%), he’d be fine.
at this point scott is not a major league starting CF....his OPS is that of a pitcher
It’s not THAT bad. It’s still above .600. And his OBP of .309 (entering today) with his speed and defense is fine. There are worse hitters hitting for division leaders that don’t have the same level of defense or speed that Scott has. Which is why his WAR is one of the best on the team.
3B Joey Ortiz, Milwaukee: .610 OPS
SS Trey Sweeney, Detroit: .577 OPS
LF Michael Conforto, LA Dodgers: .627 OPS
CF Victor Scott II, STL: .618 OPS
CF Tyrone Taylor, NY Mets: .546 OPS
Sweeney and taylor are not primary starters for the mets and detroit tigers.
Sweeney has only like 264 at bats and only has as much as he does cuz of injuries and he wasnoptioned for part of this year. Baez is the primary ss for tigers when they are full strength.
The mets traded for cedric mullins to demote tyrone taylor from his starting job.
Edit: additionally- those other teams werent also starting pedro pages as their catcher too as well as sub. 700 ops arenado as their 3b
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