Re: Fedde to Braves
Posted: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
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Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Its not full amount because the team with player always has to pay player at least prorated league minimum so its probably just we are covering his salary minus thatbrock118 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 19:11 pmFirst off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.Melville wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:16 pmOutstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:38 amSalary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
they weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his valueBomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:16 amTrue, Fedde HAS little to no value.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:38 amSalary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.
Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.
Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.
Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
Yeah Melville can't figure out that simple concept....good thing he makes so much money running so company supposedly making great decisions.Wattage wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:45 amIts not full amount because the team with player always has to pay player at least prorated league minimum so its probably just we are covering his salary minus thatbrock118 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 19:11 pmFirst off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.Melville wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:16 pmOutstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
Agreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:28 amthey weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his valueBomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:16 amTrue, Fedde HAS little to no value.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:38 amSalary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.
Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.
Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.
Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
That's exactly the point. No one has a crystal ball. It's not like Fedde and the front-office planned for his 2025 season to work out the way it has. What gets me is if he had been traded and done well, the same folks complaining now would be going on about what Mozeliak could have been thinking to let Fedde go. Oh well, just a few more months and they can start whining about Bloom.the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
yup, that would have been exactly what they needed and for low cost. just didn't work out. it happensBrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:27 amAgreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:28 amthey weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his valueBomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:16 amTrue, Fedde HAS little to no value.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:38 amSalary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.
Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.
Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.
Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
And it was a smart move based on the information they had. Fedde had a decent year in 2024, and was having a decent year this year into late June. After his start on June 19 he was sporting a 3.54 ERA. No one could have predicted that his wheels would fall off so fast and so much. But they did.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:31 amyup, that would have been exactly what they needed and for low cost. just didn't work out. it happensBrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:27 amAgreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:28 amthey weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his valueBomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:16 amTrue, Fedde HAS little to no value.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:38 amSalary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.
Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.
Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.
Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
Basically they werent willing to claim him and mo assumed hed clear waivers so braves were willing to give some minor leaguer to assure they get him rather than fedde going wherever he wants if he clears waiversbrock118 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:24 amYeah Melville can't figure out that simple concept....good thing he makes so much money running so company supposedly making great decisions.Wattage wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:45 amIts not full amount because the team with player always has to pay player at least prorated league minimum so its probably just we are covering his salary minus thatbrock118 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 19:11 pmFirst off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.Melville wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 18:16 pmOutstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
There is no “they”.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:28 amthey weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his valueBomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:16 amTrue, Fedde HAS little to no value.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:38 amSalary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.
Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.
Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.
Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
Except that’s what has happened with Mozeliak in charge -moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:31 amyup, that would have been exactly what they needed and for low cost. just didn't work out. it happensBrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 10:27 amAgreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:28 amthey weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his valueBomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 09:16 amTrue, Fedde HAS little to no value.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 08:38 amSalary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.Ronnie Dobbs wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.
Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.
Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.
Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.