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Re: Fedde to Braves

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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
Its not full amount because the team with player always has to pay player at least prorated league minimum so its probably just we are covering his salary minus that
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.

However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.

Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.

Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.

Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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Bomber1 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:16 am
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.

However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.

Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.

Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.

Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
they weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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Wattage wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:45 am
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
Its not full amount because the team with player always has to pay player at least prorated league minimum so its probably just we are covering his salary minus that
Yeah Melville can't figure out that simple concept....good thing he makes so much money running so company supposedly making great decisions.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:28 am
Bomber1 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:16 am
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.

However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.

Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.

Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.

Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
they weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
Agreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
That's exactly the point. No one has a crystal ball. It's not like Fedde and the front-office planned for his 2025 season to work out the way it has. What gets me is if he had been traded and done well, the same folks complaining now would be going on about what Mozeliak could have been thinking to let Fedde go. Oh well, just a few more months and they can start whining about Bloom.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:27 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:28 am
Bomber1 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:16 am
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.

However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.

Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.

Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.

Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
they weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
Agreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.
yup, that would have been exactly what they needed and for low cost. just didn't work out. it happens
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:31 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:27 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:28 am
Bomber1 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:16 am
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.

However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.

Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.

Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.

Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
they weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
Agreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.
yup, that would have been exactly what they needed and for low cost. just didn't work out. it happens
And it was a smart move based on the information they had. Fedde had a decent year in 2024, and was having a decent year this year into late June. After his start on June 19 he was sporting a 3.54 ERA. No one could have predicted that his wheels would fall off so fast and so much. But they did.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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brock118 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:24 am
Wattage wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:45 am
brock118 wrote: 27 Jul 2025 19:11 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:16 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:10 pm
Melville wrote: 27 Jul 2025 18:06 pm In fairness, let's give Super Slo Mo appropriate credit here.
He made it clear all along that we wanted to trade Fedde at the deadline.
Which is exactly what happened.
Well Mo never did say he expected anything back.
Outstanding point sir!
On a slightly more serious note, it is reported STL is covering all of the remaining 2.7M of his salary in exchange for future considerations.
That could be very good news and may suggest a new day is "blooming".
Perhaps DeWitt is willing to eat dollars related other contracts also, as the team pivots to new beginning.
First off let's clear this up. The mlbtraderumors.com article is written poorly about that. If you click on the link, the quote from the link says the majority of his remaining salary. Not the full amount. Unless you have seen it somewhere else different. 95% of the time it means the Braves are just paying the minimum salary and the Cards pick up the rest like I mentioned earlier and others also chimed in. They aren't paying the full amount. The real question is how much the Braves will send back if not a PTBNL which is probably some 17 year old relief pitcher.
Its not full amount because the team with player always has to pay player at least prorated league minimum so its probably just we are covering his salary minus that
Yeah Melville can't figure out that simple concept....good thing he makes so much money running so company supposedly making great decisions.
Basically they werent willing to claim him and mo assumed hed clear waivers so braves were willing to give some minor leaguer to assure they get him rather than fedde going wherever he wants if he clears waivers
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:28 am
Bomber1 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:16 am
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.

However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.

Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.

Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.

Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
they weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
There is no “they”.

It was John Mozeliak and yes he was wrong.

Certainly no surprise.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:31 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:27 am
moose-and-squirrel wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:28 am
Bomber1 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 09:16 am
rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 08:38 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 27 Jul 2025 17:10 pm I'm guessing we're getting nothing but some salary relief.
Salary relief is all MO was looking for. Let’s face it, Fedde has little to no value.
True, Fedde HAS little to no value.

However, last offseason he HAD decent value - coming off a solid season, only 1 year left on contract at a bargain price for a mid-level starter.

Mozeliak thought:
1. Maybe Fedde can pitch great and help the team to the postseason in my last year, and
2. If the team falters I can still trade him at deadline for good value.

Mozeliak was wrong in both counts.

Only about 65 days left for this ridiculously terrible POBO.
they weren't wrong in thinking either of those things. the problem is Fedde faltered as much as the team, thus sinking his value
Agreed. They thought Fedde would be a serviceable innings-eater while some younger arms matured.
yup, that would have been exactly what they needed and for low cost. just didn't work out. it happens
Except that’s what has happened with Mozeliak in charge -
“Just didn’t work out” time and time again.

- O’Neill
- Carlson
- Alex Reyes
- DeJong
- Carpenter extension
- Andrew Miller
- Cecil
- Gregerson
- Leake
- Fowler
- Fedde

He effed up Fedde’s value and there is no denying it.
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Re: Fedde to Braves

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The Braves continue to acquire (bleep) DFA'd pitchers just to have innings to close out the season.

They just acquired Carlos Carrasco from the Yankees
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