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thetank2 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 09:18 am

An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:45 am

thetank2 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:01 am You think he will do well? Our problem is SP. Reset or not it's SPs. Mo in the past managed to cobble up enough to have winning seasons.

Is it perhaps lost on you why Bloom brought in Matt Pierpont from Seattle and Rob Cerfolio from Cleveland?

By adding staff doesn't mean you will get results. A certain amount of luck is necessary. It's different than 25 years ago when we traded for Edmonds, Renteria, Rolen, SPs and got lucky drafting Pujols. We tried with Arenado and Goldy. Didn't get lucky in the playoffs lately. Got lucky in 2006 and 2011.

Good luck Bloom. I doubt he averages 90-72 for 15 years.

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:12 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:10 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 05:59 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:57 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:41 pm

CCard wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:24 pm https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-re ... -bogaerts/


Some of you think he's some kind of savior. He failed in Boston, let's see if he can be any better in St Louis. I'm hoping he is but betting that he isn't. If Dewitt loosens the purse strings then maybe he can succeed.

The first one was a dumb criticism he had to dump payroll and had to attach price to betts in order to get rid of him which hurt the return

Most of it is dumb. It mentions missing out on a guy like Dansby Swanson for starters. Not a bad player but not exactly a world beater here. Trading Hunter Renfroe(lol) not keeping Benintendi(lol) and even Xander Bogaerts hasn’t been a world beater here, after a strong first season in SD his next 2 years there have been very pedestrian and he’s 32 with plenty more years left on that deal. None of those guys would be moving the needle much now with the Sox nor have they years prior. Not to mention multiple times in this article it was mentioned he was hamstrung by higher ups.

Bloom made his mistakes, nobody has ever questioned that. But he left that organization in terrific shape farm system wise. He was thrown to the wolves immediately with the Betts fiasco, was expected to turn things around quickly and arguably the most unforgiving and high pressure city in all of sports. In a routinely juggernaut division.

The guy has a clear knack for developing young talent and people just want to dig up 2 year old articles to protect Mo.

It’s sad

Some of you think he's the next messiah and that clearly isn't the case. He might be great, I don't know but clearly he's saddled with the same constraints that got him fired in Boston. As you all have pointed out, he was directed to trade Betts and he got fired for it among other reasons. Now, years later, he's going to be faced with an even smaller payroll even as contracts spiral upward. Listen, I hope he works miracles, and maybe he will. He certainly will get a chance to. It's just that you all in all probability are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Ownership will make the difference. He Dewitt loosens the purse strings things will get significantly better. If he doesn't? I predict in a few years the same people that are championing him as the next Branch Rickey will be calling him names and wanting his head on a spike.

Nobody has thought that. Not once. What people have thought is that he possesses some solid qualities that give us some hope again, with the most important one not being the bow tied ret*rd that flat out dismantled this team into complete irrelevance

Maybe he succeeds, maybe he doesn’t. But for the first time in a few years there’s reason to be optimistic about the team going forward and that for some reason really bothers the Mo cult.

It’s weird

How many championships has he won. How many has Mo won? Hmmm.... Merely reiterating that the grass isn't always greener.

You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:32 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:29 pm

CCard wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:24 pm https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-re ... -bogaerts/


Some of you think he's some kind of savior. He failed in Boston, let's see if he can be any better in St Louis. I'm hoping he is but betting that he isn't. If Dewitt loosens the purse strings then maybe he can succeed.

I suspect he will have learned much from his first experience. The only real mistake I saw in the 6 items was paying Story $140M.

Trading Betts was a mistake, I'd argue. Maybe he could have petitioned ownership to keep Betts more forcefully. I don't know the entire situation so I really can't speak to it, but looking at Betts talent, there are some players you just don't trade. Maybe it wasn't his fault

You don't know the entire situation and can't really speak to it, but you just did. Your mind is made up, even though you admit you don't know all the details. Maybe is wasn't his fault? There's plenty of information regarding Bloom's time with the Red Sox, but you've chosen to ignore it.

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:20 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:12 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:10 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 05:59 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:57 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:41 pm

CCard wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:24 pm https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-re ... -bogaerts/


Some of you think he's some kind of savior. He failed in Boston, let's see if he can be any better in St Louis. I'm hoping he is but betting that he isn't. If Dewitt loosens the purse strings then maybe he can succeed.

The first one was a dumb criticism he had to dump payroll and had to attach price to betts in order to get rid of him which hurt the return

Most of it is dumb. It mentions missing out on a guy like Dansby Swanson for starters. Not a bad player but not exactly a world beater here. Trading Hunter Renfroe(lol) not keeping Benintendi(lol) and even Xander Bogaerts hasn’t been a world beater here, after a strong first season in SD his next 2 years there have been very pedestrian and he’s 32 with plenty more years left on that deal. None of those guys would be moving the needle much now with the Sox nor have they years prior. Not to mention multiple times in this article it was mentioned he was hamstrung by higher ups.

Bloom made his mistakes, nobody has ever questioned that. But he left that organization in terrific shape farm system wise. He was thrown to the wolves immediately with the Betts fiasco, was expected to turn things around quickly and arguably the most unforgiving and high pressure city in all of sports. In a routinely juggernaut division.

The guy has a clear knack for developing young talent and people just want to dig up 2 year old articles to protect Mo.

It’s sad

Some of you think he's the next messiah and that clearly isn't the case. He might be great, I don't know but clearly he's saddled with the same constraints that got him fired in Boston. As you all have pointed out, he was directed to trade Betts and he got fired for it among other reasons. Now, years later, he's going to be faced with an even smaller payroll even as contracts spiral upward. Listen, I hope he works miracles, and maybe he will. He certainly will get a chance to. It's just that you all in all probability are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Ownership will make the difference. He Dewitt loosens the purse strings things will get significantly better. If he doesn't? I predict in a few years the same people that are championing him as the next Branch Rickey will be calling him names and wanting his head on a spike.

Nobody has thought that. Not once. What people have thought is that he possesses some solid qualities that give us some hope again, with the most important one not being the bow tied ret*rd that flat out dismantled this team into complete irrelevance

Maybe he succeeds, maybe he doesn’t. But for the first time in a few years there’s reason to be optimistic about the team going forward and that for some reason really bothers the Mo cult.

It’s weird

How many championships has he won. How many has Mo won? Hmmm.... Merely reiterating that the grass isn't always greener.

You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

You believe with no proof, just a feeling. I paraphrased Mo's actual comments. We are not the same. Just let it be.

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:21 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:32 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:29 pm

CCard wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:24 pm https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-re ... -bogaerts/


Some of you think he's some kind of savior. He failed in Boston, let's see if he can be any better in St Louis. I'm hoping he is but betting that he isn't. If Dewitt loosens the purse strings then maybe he can succeed.

I suspect he will have learned much from his first experience. The only real mistake I saw in the 6 items was paying Story $140M.

Trading Betts was a mistake, I'd argue. Maybe he could have petitioned ownership to keep Betts more forcefully. I don't know the entire situation so I really can't speak to it, but looking at Betts talent, there are some players you just don't trade. Maybe it wasn't his fault

You don't know the entire situation and can't really speak to it, but you just did. Your mind is made up, even though you admit you don't know all the details. Maybe is wasn't his fault? There's plenty of information regarding Bloom's time with the Red Sox, but you've chosen to ignore it.

Was he fired? Isn't that relevant?

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:23 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:21 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:32 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:29 pm

CCard wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:24 pm https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-re ... -bogaerts/


Some of you think he's some kind of savior. He failed in Boston, let's see if he can be any better in St Louis. I'm hoping he is but betting that he isn't. If Dewitt loosens the purse strings then maybe he can succeed.

I suspect he will have learned much from his first experience. The only real mistake I saw in the 6 items was paying Story $140M.

Trading Betts was a mistake, I'd argue. Maybe he could have petitioned ownership to keep Betts more forcefully. I don't know the entire situation so I really can't speak to it, but looking at Betts talent, there are some players you just don't trade. Maybe it wasn't his fault

You don't know the entire situation and can't really speak to it, but you just did. Your mind is made up, even though you admit you don't know all the details. Maybe is wasn't his fault? There's plenty of information regarding Bloom's time with the Red Sox, but you've chosen to ignore it.

Was he fired? Isn't that relevant?

People get fired in this business all the time.

Is the reality of a Jekyll-Hyde ownership while with the Sox not relevant?

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:01 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:20 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:12 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:10 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 05:59 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:57 pm

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:41 pm

The first one was a dumb criticism he had to dump payroll and had to attach price to betts in order to get rid of him which hurt the return

Most of it is dumb. It mentions missing out on a guy like Dansby Swanson for starters. Not a bad player but not exactly a world beater here. Trading Hunter Renfroe(lol) not keeping Benintendi(lol) and even Xander Bogaerts hasn’t been a world beater here, after a strong first season in SD his next 2 years there have been very pedestrian and he’s 32 with plenty more years left on that deal. None of those guys would be moving the needle much now with the Sox nor have they years prior. Not to mention multiple times in this article it was mentioned he was hamstrung by higher ups.

Bloom made his mistakes, nobody has ever questioned that. But he left that organization in terrific shape farm system wise. He was thrown to the wolves immediately with the Betts fiasco, was expected to turn things around quickly and arguably the most unforgiving and high pressure city in all of sports. In a routinely juggernaut division.

The guy has a clear knack for developing young talent and people just want to dig up 2 year old articles to protect Mo.

It’s sad

Some of you think he's the next messiah and that clearly isn't the case. He might be great, I don't know but clearly he's saddled with the same constraints that got him fired in Boston. As you all have pointed out, he was directed to trade Betts and he got fired for it among other reasons. Now, years later, he's going to be faced with an even smaller payroll even as contracts spiral upward. Listen, I hope he works miracles, and maybe he will. He certainly will get a chance to. It's just that you all in all probability are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Ownership will make the difference. He Dewitt loosens the purse strings things will get significantly better. If he doesn't? I predict in a few years the same people that are championing him as the next Branch Rickey will be calling him names and wanting his head on a spike.

Nobody has thought that. Not once. What people have thought is that he possesses some solid qualities that give us some hope again, with the most important one not being the bow tied ret*rd that flat out dismantled this team into complete irrelevance

Maybe he succeeds, maybe he doesn’t. But for the first time in a few years there’s reason to be optimistic about the team going forward and that for some reason really bothers the Mo cult.

It’s weird

How many championships has he won. How many has Mo won? Hmmm.... Merely reiterating that the grass isn't always greener.

You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

You believe with no proof, just a feeling. I paraphrased Mo's actual comments. We are not the same. Just let it be.

What actual comments are you referring to? And what makes you believe there is no actual proof?

CCard wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:14 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:23 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:21 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:32 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:29 pm

CCard wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:24 pm https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-re ... -bogaerts/


Some of you think he's some kind of savior. He failed in Boston, let's see if he can be any better in St Louis. I'm hoping he is but betting that he isn't. If Dewitt loosens the purse strings then maybe he can succeed.

I suspect he will have learned much from his first experience. The only real mistake I saw in the 6 items was paying Story $140M.

Trading Betts was a mistake, I'd argue. Maybe he could have petitioned ownership to keep Betts more forcefully. I don't know the entire situation so I really can't speak to it, but looking at Betts talent, there are some players you just don't trade. Maybe it wasn't his fault

You don't know the entire situation and can't really speak to it, but you just did. Your mind is made up, even though you admit you don't know all the details. Maybe is wasn't his fault? There's plenty of information regarding Bloom's time with the Red Sox, but you've chosen to ignore it.

Was he fired? Isn't that relevant?

People get fired in this business all the time.

Is the reality of a Jekyll-Hyde ownership while with the Sox not relevant?

Obviously everything is relevant. So, are you stating that he will make St Louis a winner? Because Wetherholt and Liam are a result of the Cards losing and getting lucky in the draft order. Mo still had to okay them being drafted and ownership had to okay that. So a couple of years down the road if/when they are integral in the success of the Cards, will you be giving the credit for a winner to Bloom?

CCard wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:18 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:01 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:20 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:12 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:10 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 05:59 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:57 pm

Most of it is dumb. It mentions missing out on a guy like Dansby Swanson for starters. Not a bad player but not exactly a world beater here. Trading Hunter Renfroe(lol) not keeping Benintendi(lol) and even Xander Bogaerts hasn’t been a world beater here, after a strong first season in SD his next 2 years there have been very pedestrian and he’s 32 with plenty more years left on that deal. None of those guys would be moving the needle much now with the Sox nor have they years prior. Not to mention multiple times in this article it was mentioned he was hamstrung by higher ups.

Bloom made his mistakes, nobody has ever questioned that. But he left that organization in terrific shape farm system wise. He was thrown to the wolves immediately with the Betts fiasco, was expected to turn things around quickly and arguably the most unforgiving and high pressure city in all of sports. In a routinely juggernaut division.

The guy has a clear knack for developing young talent and people just want to dig up 2 year old articles to protect Mo.

It’s sad

Some of you think he's the next messiah and that clearly isn't the case. He might be great, I don't know but clearly he's saddled with the same constraints that got him fired in Boston. As you all have pointed out, he was directed to trade Betts and he got fired for it among other reasons. Now, years later, he's going to be faced with an even smaller payroll even as contracts spiral upward. Listen, I hope he works miracles, and maybe he will. He certainly will get a chance to. It's just that you all in all probability are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Ownership will make the difference. He Dewitt loosens the purse strings things will get significantly better. If he doesn't? I predict in a few years the same people that are championing him as the next Branch Rickey will be calling him names and wanting his head on a spike.

Nobody has thought that. Not once. What people have thought is that he possesses some solid qualities that give us some hope again, with the most important one not being the bow tied ret*rd that flat out dismantled this team into complete irrelevance

Maybe he succeeds, maybe he doesn’t. But for the first time in a few years there’s reason to be optimistic about the team going forward and that for some reason really bothers the Mo cult.

It’s weird

How many championships has he won. How many has Mo won? Hmmm.... Merely reiterating that the grass isn't always greener.

You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

You believe with no proof, just a feeling. I paraphrased Mo's actual comments. We are not the same. Just let it be.

What actual comments are you referring to? And what makes you believe there is no actual proof?

Mo's actual comments on who decides who plays or not. I of course am not going to the trouble to try to find them. You can do that on your own. I use Mo's own words, I don't infer that TLR was the reason for a winning roster because while he had some input, he did not decide who plays. Per Mo's own words.

Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 08:44 am

CCard wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:18 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:01 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:20 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:12 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:10 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 05:59 am

Some of you think he's the next messiah and that clearly isn't the case. He might be great, I don't know but clearly he's saddled with the same constraints that got him fired in Boston. As you all have pointed out, he was directed to trade Betts and he got fired for it among other reasons. Now, years later, he's going to be faced with an even smaller payroll even as contracts spiral upward. Listen, I hope he works miracles, and maybe he will. He certainly will get a chance to. It's just that you all in all probability are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Ownership will make the difference. He Dewitt loosens the purse strings things will get significantly better. If he doesn't? I predict in a few years the same people that are championing him as the next Branch Rickey will be calling him names and wanting his head on a spike.

Nobody has thought that. Not once. What people have thought is that he possesses some solid qualities that give us some hope again, with the most important one not being the bow tied ret*rd that flat out dismantled this team into complete irrelevance

Maybe he succeeds, maybe he doesn’t. But for the first time in a few years there’s reason to be optimistic about the team going forward and that for some reason really bothers the Mo cult.

It’s weird

How many championships has he won. How many has Mo won? Hmmm.... Merely reiterating that the grass isn't always greener.

You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

You believe with no proof, just a feeling. I paraphrased Mo's actual comments. We are not the same. Just let it be.

What actual comments are you referring to? And what makes you believe there is no actual proof?

Mo's actual comments on who decides who plays or not. I of course am not going to the trouble to try to find them. You can do that on your own. I use Mo's own words, I don't infer that TLR was the reason for a winning roster because while he had some input, he did not decide who plays. Per Mo's own words.

You make a statement. Swear it as a fact. Then expect someone else to back your claims for you. And try to play it off like you’re more credible than anyone else.

You’re reaching a rather sad level of desperation.

AnExParrot wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:48 am

CCard wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:14 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:23 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:21 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:32 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 16:19 pm

hugeCardfan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:29 pm

CCard wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 21:24 pm https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-re ... -bogaerts/


Some of you think he's some kind of savior. He failed in Boston, let's see if he can be any better in St Louis. I'm hoping he is but betting that he isn't. If Dewitt loosens the purse strings then maybe he can succeed.

I suspect he will have learned much from his first experience. The only real mistake I saw in the 6 items was paying Story $140M.

Trading Betts was a mistake, I'd argue. Maybe he could have petitioned ownership to keep Betts more forcefully. I don't know the entire situation so I really can't speak to it, but looking at Betts talent, there are some players you just don't trade. Maybe it wasn't his fault

You don't know the entire situation and can't really speak to it, but you just did. Your mind is made up, even though you admit you don't know all the details. Maybe is wasn't his fault? There's plenty of information regarding Bloom's time with the Red Sox, but you've chosen to ignore it.

Was he fired? Isn't that relevant?

People get fired in this business all the time.

Is the reality of a Jekyll-Hyde ownership while with the Sox not relevant?

Obviously everything is relevant. So, are you stating that he will make St Louis a winner? Because Wetherholt and Liam are a result of the Cards losing and getting lucky in the draft order. Mo still had to okay them being drafted and ownership had to okay that. So a couple of years down the road if/when they are integral in the success of the Cards, will you be giving the credit for a winner to Bloom?

I have no idea if Bloom will make the Cardinals a winner, nor do you, but I'm not the one [defecating] on the guy for his time with the Sox while ignoring, quite transparently for the sake of your gripe, that he was hamstrung by what can, very generously, be called a flighty ownership group.

The article recognizes the issue before immediately ignoring that acknowledgement in their first complaint: the return on Betts. The writer of the article is talking out both sides of his neck, and hoping people don't notice. You clearly didn't notice.

CCard wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 07:36 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 08:44 am

CCard wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:18 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:01 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:20 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:12 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 08:10 am

Nobody has thought that. Not once. What people have thought is that he possesses some solid qualities that give us some hope again, with the most important one not being the bow tied ret*rd that flat out dismantled this team into complete irrelevance

Maybe he succeeds, maybe he doesn’t. But for the first time in a few years there’s reason to be optimistic about the team going forward and that for some reason really bothers the Mo cult.

It’s weird

How many championships has he won. How many has Mo won? Hmmm.... Merely reiterating that the grass isn't always greener.

You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

You believe with no proof, just a feeling. I paraphrased Mo's actual comments. We are not the same. Just let it be.

What actual comments are you referring to? And what makes you believe there is no actual proof?

Mo's actual comments on who decides who plays or not. I of course am not going to the trouble to try to find them. You can do that on your own. I use Mo's own words, I don't infer that TLR was the reason for a winning roster because while he had some input, he did not decide who plays. Per Mo's own words.

You make a statement. Swear it as a fact. Then expect someone else to back your claims for you. And try to play it off like you’re more credible than anyone else.

You’re reaching a rather sad level of desperation.

Dude, just stop. I'm not fighting with you. You maybe believe what you believe or you're trolling, either way I'm done.

Banner29 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 07:50 am

CCard wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 07:36 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 08:44 am

CCard wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:18 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:01 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:20 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:12 am

How many championships has he won. How many has Mo won? Hmmm.... Merely reiterating that the grass isn't always greener.

You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

You believe with no proof, just a feeling. I paraphrased Mo's actual comments. We are not the same. Just let it be.

What actual comments are you referring to? And what makes you believe there is no actual proof?

Mo's actual comments on who decides who plays or not. I of course am not going to the trouble to try to find them. You can do that on your own. I use Mo's own words, I don't infer that TLR was the reason for a winning roster because while he had some input, he did not decide who plays. Per Mo's own words.

You make a statement. Swear it as a fact. Then expect someone else to back your claims for you. And try to play it off like you’re more credible than anyone else.

You’re reaching a rather sad level of desperation.

Dude, just stop. I'm not fighting with you. You maybe believe what you believe or you're trolling, either way I'm done.

You’re done because you know I’m right. You were just hoping you wouldn’t get called out.

Stop acting like a lady

CCard wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 07:52 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 07:50 am

CCard wrote: ↑27 Jul 2025 07:36 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 08:44 am

CCard wrote: ↑26 Jul 2025 07:18 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 11:01 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:20 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 08:56 am

CCard wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 07:39 am

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 21:37 pm

CCard wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 14:01 pm

Banner29 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 10:19 am


You’re grasping at anything you can at this point. TLR was the architect for that championship, not Mo. which clearly bothered him. There’s a reason the managers he’s hired since total have a combined 0 games managed.

LOL....TLR, the on field manager was the architect for the championship. You're funny.

Yes.

You think Mo made the decision to run Rasmus out of town?

You’re funny

Do I think TLR had input in decisions? Sure. I'm sure they asked his opinion, but ultimately MO and Dewitt decides who plays and who leaves. To suggest that a manager has that kind of power is backward thinking from a bygone era. By and large the biggest input comes from the owner. Everyone else gives suggestions.

TLR has ALOT of input……As in do this now. I’m a HOF manager with credibility so don’t question me.

Hence why the 3 managers after him had zero credibility and one even got fired for trying to have input……

This isn’t difficult, you’re just making it that way.

You believe with no proof, just a feeling. I paraphrased Mo's actual comments. We are not the same. Just let it be.

What actual comments are you referring to? And what makes you believe there is no actual proof?

Mo's actual comments on who decides who plays or not. I of course am not going to the trouble to try to find them. You can do that on your own. I use Mo's own words, I don't infer that TLR was the reason for a winning roster because while he had some input, he did not decide who plays. Per Mo's own words.

You make a statement. Swear it as a fact. Then expect someone else to back your claims for you. And try to play it off like you’re more credible than anyone else.

You’re reaching a rather sad level of desperation.

Dude, just stop. I'm not fighting with you. You maybe believe what you believe or you're trolling, either way I'm done.

You’re done because you know I’m right. You were just hoping you wouldn’t get called out.

Stop acting like a lady

LOL...Research. Mo's own words as opposed to your bullcrap. Frig off troll.