Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 09:07 am
I’m not concerned with but one height. How high his fastball rides in the zone. My only height issue.
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Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 11:20 am
Billy Wagner was short, they get great ride on their heaters
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 14:43 pm
I already named the majority of the current crop of top lefty pitchers, and Skubal is inarguably the best of the best.Bully4you wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 07:48 amI meant the current crop of pitchers, not all time.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 15:51 pmIt’s more than a few.Bully4you wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 08:04 amYeah, there are a few with great successQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 06:28 amShota Imanaga - 5’10”
Nestor Cortes - 5’10”
Framber Valdez - 5’11”
Andrew Abbott - 6’0”
Jesus Luzardo - 6’0”
Ranger Suarez - 6’1”
Mackenzie Gore - 6’2”
Robbie Ray - 6’2”
Carlos Rodon - 6’2”
Tarik Skubal - 6’3”
even below 6'0".
I was just asking as I was thinking about
some of the best of the best and they
are generally taller.
Koufax and Spahn already mentioned…
Ron Guidry - 5’11”
Fernando Valenzuela - 5’11”
Johan Santana - 6’0”
Vida Blue - 6’0”
Mike Cuellar - 6’0”
Tom Glavine - 6’0”
Carl Hubbell - 6’0”
Hal Newhouser - 6’2”
Jerry Koosman - 6’2”
Frank Tanana - 6’2”
Lefty Grove - 6’3”
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 16 Jul 2025 14:49 pm
The average height of MLB pitchers in 2025 is approx. 6' 2.5". Doyle is listed at 6' 2".
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 09:05 am
So, he's below average height.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 14:49 pm The average height of MLB pitchers in 2025 is approx. 6' 2.5". Doyle is listed at 6' 2".
I thought that may be the case.
Thanks for the info.
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 09:06 am
I know you did.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 14:43 pmI already named the majority of the current crop of top lefty pitchers, and Skubal is inarguably the best of the best.Bully4you wrote: ↑16 Jul 2025 07:48 amI meant the current crop of pitchers, not all time.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 15:51 pmIt’s more than a few.Bully4you wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 08:04 amYeah, there are a few with great successQuincy Varnish wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 06:28 amShota Imanaga - 5’10”
Nestor Cortes - 5’10”
Framber Valdez - 5’11”
Andrew Abbott - 6’0”
Jesus Luzardo - 6’0”
Ranger Suarez - 6’1”
Mackenzie Gore - 6’2”
Robbie Ray - 6’2”
Carlos Rodon - 6’2”
Tarik Skubal - 6’3”
even below 6'0".
I was just asking as I was thinking about
some of the best of the best and they
are generally taller.
Koufax and Spahn already mentioned…
Ron Guidry - 5’11”
Fernando Valenzuela - 5’11”
Johan Santana - 6’0”
Vida Blue - 6’0”
Mike Cuellar - 6’0”
Tom Glavine - 6’0”
Carl Hubbell - 6’0”
Hal Newhouser - 6’2”
Jerry Koosman - 6’2”
Frank Tanana - 6’2”
Lefty Grove - 6’3”
That's why I said there are a few.
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 09:50 am
The ABS system has already helped us realize that everyone lied about their height. Pitchers will continue to do so.
Is Sandy 6'2" (pictured next to Don Sutton, listed at 6'1")?
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Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 09:53 am
It’s a good point
Mikolas 6’4”
Fedde 6’4”
Gray 5’10”
Mikolas 6’4”
Fedde 6’4”
Gray 5’10”
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 09:56 am
Kris Bubic is 6’3”Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑15 Jul 2025 06:28 amShota Imanaga - 5’10”
Nestor Cortes - 5’10”
Framber Valdez - 5’11”
Andrew Abbott - 6’0”
Jesus Luzardo - 6’0”
Ranger Suarez - 6’1”
Mackenzie Gore - 6’2”
Robbie Ray - 6’2”
Carlos Rodon - 6’2”
Tarik Skubal - 6’3”
Andrew Heaney is 6’2” we made him look like Cy Young out there
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 11:16 am
A little on the shorter side, but not so much that I'm concerned about it.
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 11:20 am
My only concern is how quickly he can learn to cut 10mph off his fastball and pitch to contact. If he can do that, he could be in AAA as early as 2030.
I'm also curious about whether he could learn to play OF. Or catcher?
I'm also curious about whether he could learn to play OF. Or catcher?
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 12:07 pm
I’m not sure that’s changed. I’ve bumped into more than a few players that clearly do not match their listed height.
Re: Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?
Posted: 17 Jul 2025 14:14 pm
+1. I've gone to Spring Training 24 times. I noticed as you do that heights are often off the mark. You stand near or along the fence and they are in the dugout and, I'm 6'0", and there are many players shorter.Quincy Varnish wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 12:07 pmI’m not sure that’s changed. I’ve bumped into more than a few players that clearly do not match their listed height.