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Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
by ScotchMIrish
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
No. As you say, we have that.
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:17 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
The Tigers player I mentioned earlier in this thread- Josue Briceno has the power being asked for and the contact ability you are hoping for.
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:17 pm
by ScotchMIrish
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
No. As you say, we have that.
Then you are talking a big time hitter prosepect. Helsley, Hence maybe Burleson or Donovan might get you that player whoever he is. You aren't going to steal a play like that very often.
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:19 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:17 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
The Tigers player I mentioned earlier in this thread- Josue Briceno has the power being asked for and the contact ability you are hoping for.
I don't mind taking a chance on him but coupla things:
- that's what they said Walker was in the minors
- we are already overflowing with 1B/DH types
- what does it take to get him?
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
by Talkin' Baseball
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:19 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:17 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
The Tigers player I mentioned earlier in this thread- Josue Briceno has the power being asked for and the contact ability you are hoping for.
I don't mind taking a chance on him but coupla things:
- that's what they said Walker was in the minors
- we are already overflowing with 1B/DH types
- what does it take to get him?
Of course that's what was said about Walker. The thread is about Mo going out and getting a power hitting prospects. That's the nature of a prospect. They aren't sure things. This is a very good prospect. He might not make it. If he does make it, his profile is such that you don't care where he plays. He plays and you're glad you've got him.
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 12:25 pm
by JuanAgosto
With the 5th pick, the team should go best player available. Position shouldn't matter.
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 14:15 pm
by Carp4Cy
Shady wrote: ↑03 Jul 2025 19:09 pm
At the trade deadline for the reset. Helsley could get that. And maybe Contreras could if he'd want to go to a serious contender and waive his NTC.
No they wouldn’t.
Winn might get us one. Or packaging Burly and Hence might.
You just can’t get really great prospects for rental’s any more. Doesn’t work that way.
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 14:19 pm
by Carp4Cy
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
2 things - not sure on Gorman. He’s been hot and cold for 4 years now. Likely he never learns the consistency we need. Like TO.
Second aboit development- what about the guys like Incavilia or Griffey that don’t even need the coaching? They just arrive ready and are too good to fail and smart enough to figure it all out intuitively in real time.
How do we get those players?
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 14:25 pm
by Shady
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 14:19 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
2 things - not sure on Gorman. He’s been hot and cold for 4 years now. Likely he never learns the consistency we need. Like TO.
Second aboit development- what about the guys like Incavilia or Griffey that don’t even need the coaching? They just arrive ready and are too good to fail and smart enough to figure it all out intuitively in real time.
How do we get those players?
I'd settle for trading for a young prospect that can hit like Pozi. Maybe a young outfielder that also has some speed.
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 14:32 pm
by moose-and-squirrel
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 14:19 pm
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
2 things - not sure on Gorman. He’s been hot and cold for 4 years now. Likely he never learns the consistency we need. Like TO.
Second aboit development- what about the guys like Incavilia or Griffey that don’t even need the coaching? They just arrive ready and are too good to fail and smart enough to figure it all out intuitively in real time.
How do we get those players?
draft super high or identify talent better than other teams (Trout anyone?)
Re: Mo must come away with a really good power hitting prospect
Posted: 06 Jul 2025 14:59 pm
by ScotchMIrish
moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 12:06 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:56 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑06 Jul 2025 11:46 am
I'd say it's unlikely but we did get Saggesse in a late July deal. I suppose it could happen but "really good power hitting prospects" are a rare commodity.
Would probably have to sweeten the pot with more than a 2 month rental.
No probably to it- that's a given.
The question then becomes what else can the "power hitting prospect" do? Gorman fits the description of a young power hitting player but he strikes out too much and has too low of an obp and avg for my liking. Is that what we are looking for?
thats exactly what you'll get but the rub is ya have to help develope them. they started that in this last offseason with Gorman and Walker, so I'd like to see how that works out. Gorman's game yesterday is a good example.. 2 hot shots to the opposite field.
keep doing that and he works out just fine
Then the price to pay is probably too much. Acquire a guy with power and try to change him. The apparently tried the opposite with Walker. He was good as a rookie but then sent him down to change him to a power hitter. Now he can't do either.