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3dender wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:50 am

Cranny wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:37 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 03:40 am Cards should absolutely draft one of
Aiva Arquette, Eli Willits or Billy Carlson.
Winn I don't think is the LT solution.
Has a great arm, but other than that the
D isn't really elite and the hitting isn't either.
The big three of Walker, Gorman and Winn
are turning out to be duds.
Burleson and Donovan are the keepers here.
I expect JJ to step up and so, we need one more.
Burleson, Donovan, JJ and Billy Carlson be a nice 4some.
Not giving up on Winn, but just not superb by any means.

So a draftee who made the majors at 21 years old, and is still only 23, and just starting to come into his own is being judged by you. Got it.

This may be the first time I've ever totally agreed with Cranny.

Anyone saying Winn has disappointed in any way is simply a moron. Do y'all know how rare it is for any rookie to hit the ground running like he has, and put up 3+ WAR in his first two seasons? And how much rarer at age 22?

After this his 2nd season Winn will have put up around 1/3 of the WAR that Kolten Wong did in his entire career. He's already the best SS they've had in 20 years, and he's likely to get a lot better as he gets more experienced and mature (both physically and mentally). In 5 years he could very well be getting MVP votes.

2ninr wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 04:45 am

3dender wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:50 am

Cranny wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:37 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 03:40 am Cards should absolutely draft one of
Aiva Arquette, Eli Willits or Billy Carlson.
Winn I don't think is the LT solution.
Has a great arm, but other than that the
D isn't really elite and the hitting isn't either.
The big three of Walker, Gorman and Winn
are turning out to be duds.
Burleson and Donovan are the keepers here.
I expect JJ to step up and so, we need one more.
Burleson, Donovan, JJ and Billy Carlson be a nice 4some.
Not giving up on Winn, but just not superb by any means.

So a draftee who made the majors at 21 years old, and is still only 23, and just starting to come into his own is being judged by you. Got it.

This may be the first time I've ever totally agreed with Cranny.

Anyone saying Winn has disappointed in any way is simply a moron. Do y'all know how rare it is for any rookie to hit the ground running like he has, and put up 3+ WAR in his first two seasons? And how much rarer at age 22?

After this his 2nd season Winn will have put up around 1/3 of the WAR that Kolten Wong did in his entire career. He's already the best SS they've had in 20 years, and he's likely to get a lot better as he gets more experienced and mature (both physically and mentally). In 5 years he could very well be getting MVP votes.

BPOT

AnExParrot wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 05:08 am

2ninr wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 04:45 am

3dender wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:50 am

Cranny wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:37 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 03:40 am Cards should absolutely draft one of
Aiva Arquette, Eli Willits or Billy Carlson.
Winn I don't think is the LT solution.
Has a great arm, but other than that the
D isn't really elite and the hitting isn't either.
The big three of Walker, Gorman and Winn
are turning out to be duds.
Burleson and Donovan are the keepers here.
I expect JJ to step up and so, we need one more.
Burleson, Donovan, JJ and Billy Carlson be a nice 4some.
Not giving up on Winn, but just not superb by any means.

So a draftee who made the majors at 21 years old, and is still only 23, and just starting to come into his own is being judged by you. Got it.

This may be the first time I've ever totally agreed with Cranny.

Anyone saying Winn has disappointed in any way is simply a moron. Do y'all know how rare it is for any rookie to hit the ground running like he has, and put up 3+ WAR in his first two seasons? And how much rarer at age 22?

After this his 2nd season Winn will have put up around 1/3 of the WAR that Kolten Wong did in his entire career. He's already the best SS they've had in 20 years, and he's likely to get a lot better as he gets more experienced and mature (both physically and mentally). In 5 years he could very well be getting MVP votes.

BPOT

Burn Pits and Other Toxins?

2ninr wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 05:11 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 05:08 am

2ninr wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 04:45 am

3dender wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:50 am

Cranny wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:37 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 03:40 am Cards should absolutely draft one of
Aiva Arquette, Eli Willits or Billy Carlson.
Winn I don't think is the LT solution.
Has a great arm, but other than that the
D isn't really elite and the hitting isn't either.
The big three of Walker, Gorman and Winn
are turning out to be duds.
Burleson and Donovan are the keepers here.
I expect JJ to step up and so, we need one more.
Burleson, Donovan, JJ and Billy Carlson be a nice 4some.
Not giving up on Winn, but just not superb by any means.

So a draftee who made the majors at 21 years old, and is still only 23, and just starting to come into his own is being judged by you. Got it.

This may be the first time I've ever totally agreed with Cranny.

Anyone saying Winn has disappointed in any way is simply a moron. Do y'all know how rare it is for any rookie to hit the ground running like he has, and put up 3+ WAR in his first two seasons? And how much rarer at age 22?

After this his 2nd season Winn will have put up around 1/3 of the WAR that Kolten Wong did in his entire career. He's already the best SS they've had in 20 years, and he's likely to get a lot better as he gets more experienced and mature (both physically and mentally). In 5 years he could very well be getting MVP votes.

BPOT

Burn Pits and Other Toxins?

Best player on team.

2ninr wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 05:11 am

AnExParrot wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 05:08 am

2ninr wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 04:45 am

3dender wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:50 am

Cranny wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 07:37 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 03:40 am Cards should absolutely draft one of
Aiva Arquette, Eli Willits or Billy Carlson.
Winn I don't think is the LT solution.
Has a great arm, but other than that the
D isn't really elite and the hitting isn't either.
The big three of Walker, Gorman and Winn
are turning out to be duds.
Burleson and Donovan are the keepers here.
I expect JJ to step up and so, we need one more.
Burleson, Donovan, JJ and Billy Carlson be a nice 4some.
Not giving up on Winn, but just not superb by any means.

So a draftee who made the majors at 21 years old, and is still only 23, and just starting to come into his own is being judged by you. Got it.

This may be the first time I've ever totally agreed with Cranny.

Anyone saying Winn has disappointed in any way is simply a moron. Do y'all know how rare it is for any rookie to hit the ground running like he has, and put up 3+ WAR in his first two seasons? And how much rarer at age 22?

After this his 2nd season Winn will have put up around 1/3 of the WAR that Kolten Wong did in his entire career. He's already the best SS they've had in 20 years, and he's likely to get a lot better as he gets more experienced and mature (both physically and mentally). In 5 years he could very well be getting MVP votes.

BPOT

Burn Pits and Other Toxins?

Best player on team.