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Re: Hels has lost it

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 18:08 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
I'm not ready to freak out regarding Helsley just yet, but this is why you don't go extending relievers long term into their 30s.

Re: Hels has lost it

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 18:36 pm
by hugeCardfan
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 10 Jun 2025 16:48 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 16:13 pm
ramfandan wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:56 am Helsley has 13 saves of his 18 opportunities. Only 4 N.L closers have more saves.
Of the closers in baseball available , he still will have suitors at the deadline.
He is also tied for the national league lead in blown saves he may have suitors but they wont be offering much for him
I think you are dead wrong. He still has great value.

My suggestion?
Package Helsley and Noot for real lead-off hitter.
There are at least two playoff teams who need a left fielder and a closer.
Name them.
How many teams have more than one "real lead off hitter". Why would they be hunting for a rental and willing to give up their "real lead off hitter".

Re: Hels has lost it

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 19:44 pm
by Stlcardsblues
Horseradish wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:26 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:19 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:16 pm Should have been traded in the offseason at peak value easy obvious correct
What was the offer they should have taken?
Don’t be obtuse, you know there were trades to be made if they tried.
Based on the Williams trade, I don’t believe the offers were good.

Re: Hels has lost it

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 20:40 pm
by Handsomebachelor
kyace wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:34 pm Cards didn’t trade Helsley or Fedde this off-season as they never listened for offers on them. From what I read numerous GM’s expressed frustrations over that and were surprised. However Mo made his priorities clear that Arenado was his primary focus.
:lol: :lol: :lol: you read that all these gms were supposedly mad man y'all say anything when things that you want to happen don't and vice versa lol

You think a gm didn't listen to offers that's his job. They at least LISTEN or entertain every offer just to see if it's an offer they can't refuse in all likelihood

Re: Hels has lost it

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 20:54 pm
by Alex Reyes Cy Young
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 10 Jun 2025 18:08 pm I'm not ready to freak out regarding Helsley just yet, but this is why you don't go extending relievers long term into their 30s.
That’s why a lot of “us” wanted to trade him even for lower level guys.

Re: Hels has lost it

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 21:00 pm
by Cusecards
Handsomebachelor wrote: 10 Jun 2025 20:40 pm
kyace wrote: 10 Jun 2025 13:34 pm Cards didn’t trade Helsley or Fedde this off-season as they never listened for offers on them. From what I read numerous GM’s expressed frustrations over that and were surprised. However Mo made his priorities clear that Arenado was his primary focus.
:lol: :lol: :lol: you read that all these gms were supposedly mad man y'all say anything when things that you want to happen don't and vice versa lol

You think a gm didn't listen to offers that's his job. They at least LISTEN or entertain every offer just to see if it's an offer they can't refuse in all likelihood
LOL
Yes I believe MO hung up on everyone who tried to call and talk.
Also....I called his office number and his recording said....”If you’re calling about Nolan Arenado please leave a message after the beep”!