Simon Nemec

[skilles]

I think my final thought on Nemec is I just couldn't trade team controled proven players for him. Best I could do is a package of really good but also unproven prospects.

[britishblue]

I think my final thought on Nemec is I just couldn't trade team controled proven players for him. Best I could do is a package of really good but also unproven prospects.

This.

Its why i dont see a match between us and new jersey.

[Harry S Deals]

Nemec is only 21 could be a franchise player steal another coup for Army. He could gel with Pekarcik and Dvorsky and anchor the right side for years however .... in no sane universe would you trade Jordan Kyrou for Nemec, Devils likely need to get tougher harder on the forecheck etc they may want a guy like Neighbours, tough pill to swallow for me for a kid that hasnt shown a ton of progress yet

[LGB73]

I think my final thought on Nemec is I just couldn't trade team controled proven players for him. Best I could do is a package of really good but also unproven prospects.

Agreed. The only way you trade a proven NHL player for one who might not develop into one is if they are sweetening the deal.

[dhsux]

I think my final thought on Nemec is I just couldn't trade team controled proven players for him. Best I could do is a package of really good but also unproven prospects.

Exactly right.

Bolduc or Neighbors??? Really?

It's NOT time for risk making moves for this player imo.

[BluesDom]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

[skilles]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

[netboy65]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

Key word in your response is “could”. We’re not yet in a position to take such a risk. Maybe in a couple years

[moose-and-squirrel]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

nail yakupov.. just sayin

[skilles]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

Key word in your response is “could”. We’re not yet in a position to take such a risk. Maybe in a couple years

Yeah thats what I said but that could also turn out to be very wrong.

[netboy65]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

Key word in your response is “could”. We’re not yet in a position to take such a risk. Maybe in a couple years

Yeah thats what I said but that could also turn out to be very wrong.

Oh sure, of course. I’d just rather go by ‘bird in the hand’ for now at least. We’re finally making strides to ultimately get where we want, let’s not stub our toe

[TheJackBurton]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

Key word in your response is “could”. We’re not yet in a position to take such a risk. Maybe in a couple years

Yeah thats what I said but that could also turn out to be very wrong.

Oh sure, of course. I’d just rather go by ‘bird in the hand’ for now at least. We’re finally making strides to ultimately get where we want, let’s not stub our toe

now if you are talking a NJ ups the offer to something like Nemec, Dawson Mercer, and a forward, now we might be getting somewhere.

NJ has Hughes and Hischier as their 1-2 at center, and other options at Center so losing Mercer wouldn't effect them much. Mercer has a 56 point season to his resume just 2 seasons ago, is only 23, he is signed the next 2 seasons at 4 million, but his points have seen a dip the past 2 seasons so he is very much a candidate for a rebound.

Now I'm not saying that is a package worth Kyrou, but it might be worth a young established forward and an established or NHL ready dman as a starter.

[MandatoryDenial]

The 101.1 mid day and fastlane all have an eye on simon nemec


What do you think it would take to get him. He has defiantly not living up to his draft pedigree. They were talking kyrou or a package.

While we are at it maybe we can dust off the rights to Sergio Momesso, Cliff Ronning, Geoff Courtnall, and Robert Dirk to throw in with it. Yes I am exaggerating more than a little but honestly that is a pretty lop sided deal a first line scoring winger for a guy who had what four points in 2 games.

[seattleblue]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

Key word in your response is “could”. We’re not yet in a position to take such a risk. Maybe in a couple years

Yeah thats what I said but that could also turn out to be very wrong.

Oh sure, of course. I’d just rather go by ‘bird in the hand’ for now at least. We’re finally making strides to ultimately get where we want, let’s not stub our toe

now if you are talking a NJ ups the offer to something like Nemec, Dawson Mercer, and a forward, now we might be getting somewhere.

NJ has Hughes and Hischier as their 1-2 at center, and other options at Center so losing Mercer wouldn't effect them much. Mercer has a 56 point season to his resume just 2 seasons ago, is only 23, he is signed the next 2 seasons at 4 million, but his points have seen a dip the past 2 seasons so he is very much a candidate for a rebound.

Now I'm not saying that is a package worth Kyrou, but it might be worth a young established forward and an established or NHL ready dman as a starter.

When I said the deal shouldn't be primarily 1-for-1 because that's an awkward deal, it was a larger deal like this that I had in mind. We would not just get a prospect we'd also get a roster player and also probably be sending more than Kyrou whether it's also a prospect or pick (debate as to what that should be is open question).

By the exact same logic that says Mercer is spare on a team that already has multiple players, the Blues have seemingly just hit on their top draft picks from 2021 and 2022 and they're both players who play Kyrou's position.

I'm not saying Mercer specifically, just that I agree with the instinct that this kind of deal where we're targeting a high end RHD prospect or young unproven player it's going to take more than a primary 1-for-1.

[a smell of green grass]

Where is Kyrou today as we speak...

Kyrou is a regular season 1-line winger, and a playoff season 2-line winger that has a history of getting soft.

What is the value of an overpaid regular season scorer that may be permanently mind-altered by Logan Stanley?

But, yeah, let's go ahead and exchange him for a 2022 TOP5 pick with a few question marks on his helmet.

No way that we get that much for Kyrou. Teams want players that turn it up in the playoffs, not disappear.

[Blue Sabbath]

4 points in 27 games? Why the H.E. double hockey sticks would you think trading Kyrou for this guy is a good idea?
What is wrong with you people?

36 goals 70 points and plus 23. for 4 points. Really ridiculous. Stop it!!

Well it could easily turn into a steal so that is why its appealing but just to much risk I think.

I mean this is a #2 overall RD....That is a VERY appealing player.

Key word in your response is “could”. We’re not yet in a position to take such a risk. Maybe in a couple years

Yeah thats what I said but that could also turn out to be very wrong.

Oh sure, of course. I’d just rather go by ‘bird in the hand’ for now at least. We’re finally making strides to ultimately get where we want, let’s not stub our toe

now if you are talking a NJ ups the offer to something like Nemec, Dawson Mercer, and a forward, now we might be getting somewhere.

NJ has Hughes and Hischier as their 1-2 at center, and other options at Center so losing Mercer wouldn't effect them much. Mercer has a 56 point season to his resume just 2 seasons ago, is only 23, he is signed the next 2 seasons at 4 million, but his points have seen a dip the past 2 seasons so he is very much a candidate for a rebound.

Now I'm not saying that is a package worth Kyrou, but it might be worth a young established forward and an established or NHL ready dman as a starter.

I have heard somewhere, maybe here, that the point totals for Dawson & Mercer or one of the two may have suffered from lack of offensively skilled linemates. Do you know anything about that?
I'll also add that Kyrou is too good and established to trade for anything less than a package deal if the return is young players and prospects yet to prove anything. Now Rantanen or a 1b/2a C or a top pairing RD is a different story.