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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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Maton is worth a shot.
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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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Most importantly -

Can Maton play LF? 2B? Does Maton understand the strike zone and layoff pitches outside the zone? Can Maton make more bat to ball contact than Gorman?
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alw80 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 08:18 am This changes everything.
ROFL
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John Denton
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Eager to add to a bullpen that lost key set-up man Andrew Kittredge in the offseason, the #STLCards signed RHP Phil Maton on Thursday. Maton, who is from Chatham, Ill., grew up a Cards fan and went to dozens of games at Busch Stadium II and III.


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#STLCards manager Oli Marmol said newly signed reliever Phil Maton will appear in a live BP session against hitters on Sunday on a back field at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter, Fla.

Maton has been working out for weeks in Arizona and pronounced himself as “fully built up.”
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sdaltons wrote: 13 Mar 2025 08:44 am I remember wanting this guy 2-3 years ago. Decent signing.
I was one of them.
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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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rockondlouie wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:51 am John Denton
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Eager to add to a bullpen that lost key set-up man Andrew Kittredge in the offseason, the #STLCards signed RHP Phil Maton on Thursday. Maton, who is from Chatham, Ill., grew up a Cards fan and went to dozens of games at Busch Stadium II and III.


John Denton
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#STLCards manager Oli Marmol said newly signed reliever Phil Maton will appear in a live BP session against hitters on Sunday on a back field at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter, Fla.

Maton has been working out for weeks in Arizona and pronounced himself as “fully built up.”
So eager to add, that they could hardly wait until the mid-March opening of free agency!
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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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Strummer Jones wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:51 am John Denton
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Eager to add to a bullpen that lost key set-up man Andrew Kittredge in the offseason, the #STLCards signed RHP Phil Maton on Thursday. Maton, who is from Chatham, Ill., grew up a Cards fan and went to dozens of games at Busch Stadium II and III.


John Denton
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#STLCards manager Oli Marmol said newly signed reliever Phil Maton will appear in a live BP session against hitters on Sunday on a back field at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter, Fla.

Maton has been working out for weeks in Arizona and pronounced himself as “fully built up.”
So eager to add, that they could hardly wait until the mid-March opening of free agency!
Mo got confused strummer, he thought he worked in the NFL and was waiting for the legal tampering period. :lol:
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Strummer Jones wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:51 am John Denton
@JohnDenton555
Eager to add to a bullpen that lost key set-up man Andrew Kittredge in the offseason, the #STLCards signed RHP Phil Maton on Thursday. Maton, who is from Chatham, Ill., grew up a Cards fan and went to dozens of games at Busch Stadium II and III.


John Denton
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#STLCards manager Oli Marmol said newly signed reliever Phil Maton will appear in a live BP session against hitters on Sunday on a back field at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter, Fla.

Maton has been working out for weeks in Arizona and pronounced himself as “fully built up.”
So eager to add, that they could hardly wait until the mid-March opening of free agency!
Well 29 other teams could have made a bid. There are ~230 relievers in mlb.
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rockondlouie wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:03 am
Strummer Jones wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:51 am John Denton
@JohnDenton555
Eager to add to a bullpen that lost key set-up man Andrew Kittredge in the offseason, the #STLCards signed RHP Phil Maton on Thursday. Maton, who is from Chatham, Ill., grew up a Cards fan and went to dozens of games at Busch Stadium II and III.


John Denton
@JohnDenton555
#STLCards manager Oli Marmol said newly signed reliever Phil Maton will appear in a live BP session against hitters on Sunday on a back field at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter, Fla.

Maton has been working out for weeks in Arizona and pronounced himself as “fully built up.”
So eager to add, that they could hardly wait until the mid-March opening of free agency!
Mo got confused strummer, he thought he worked in the NFL and was waiting for the legal tampering period. :lol:
Rocko formerly denver87 thought he could tell people he was the starting 2nd baseman for Mizzou for 4 years. He was confused with his fantasy life.
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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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thetank2 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:11 am
rockondlouie wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:03 am
Strummer Jones wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:01 am
rockondlouie wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:51 am John Denton
@JohnDenton555
Eager to add to a bullpen that lost key set-up man Andrew Kittredge in the offseason, the #STLCards signed RHP Phil Maton on Thursday. Maton, who is from Chatham, Ill., grew up a Cards fan and went to dozens of games at Busch Stadium II and III.


John Denton
@JohnDenton555
#STLCards manager Oli Marmol said newly signed reliever Phil Maton will appear in a live BP session against hitters on Sunday on a back field at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter, Fla.

Maton has been working out for weeks in Arizona and pronounced himself as “fully built up.”
So eager to add, that they could hardly wait until the mid-March opening of free agency!
Mo got confused strummer, he thought he worked in the NFL and was waiting for the legal tampering period. :lol:
Rocko formerly denver87 thought he could tell people he was the starting 2nd baseman for Mizzou for 4 years. He was confused with his fantasy life.
Not true. In his fantasy life, Rock was starting CF for the Cardinals. He had/has a number, a closet full of Gold Gloves, and a MVP award hanging next to the fireplace.
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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:33 am
ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:05 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:46 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:37 am
sdaltons wrote: 13 Mar 2025 08:44 am I remember wanting this guy 2-3 years ago. Decent signing.
Yeah, I don’t get why people are whining about this.
Because it's a short term move for a team that isn't gonna be competitive in the short term.

Essentially, the Cardinals are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Sigh....

Please research the "Chapman for Ragans" trade 2 years ago.

Thanks...
You've lost me here. Are you comparing Maton to Aroldis Chapman?

Sticking with the nautical theme: That's a bit like comparing the SS Minnow to the Queen Mary. :wink:
2022 Royals: 65-97
2023 Royals ended up being: 56-106

So, why would the 2023 Royals sign Chapman to a 1 year deal when they wren't expected to be competitive in the short term?
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Good signing. Now my pessimistic side is waiting for the next headline to be Helsley to St. Louis to see shoulder specialist.
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A positive if it means they don't stick McGreevy or Graceffo in the ML bullpen and let them continue developing as SPs at Memphis (given they are not in the STL rotation).
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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:35 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:33 am
ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:05 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:46 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:37 am
sdaltons wrote: 13 Mar 2025 08:44 am I remember wanting this guy 2-3 years ago. Decent signing.
Yeah, I don’t get why people are whining about this.
Because it's a short term move for a team that isn't gonna be competitive in the short term.

Essentially, the Cardinals are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Sigh....

Please research the "Chapman for Ragans" trade 2 years ago.

Thanks...
You've lost me here. Are you comparing Maton to Aroldis Chapman?

Sticking with the nautical theme: That's a bit like comparing the SS Minnow to the Queen Mary. :wink:
2022 Royals: 65-97
2023 Royals ended up being: 56-106

So, why would the 2023 Royals sign Chapman to a 1 year deal when they wren't expected to be competitive in the short term?
Because they were hoping to trade him for Cole Ragans? :?

The record says you can flip Chapman for a decent prospect. After all, Chapman is/was a HOF caliber closer. But comparing Maton to Aroldis Chapman is, as I said before, like comparing the SS Minnow with the Queen Mary.

We all hope for good things, but We're not getting a decent prospect for a street free agent signed in Mid March who last season was traded for cash and a PTBNL.
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Re: Cards sign Phil Maton

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Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:46 am
ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:35 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:33 am
ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:05 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:46 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:37 am
sdaltons wrote: 13 Mar 2025 08:44 am I remember wanting this guy 2-3 years ago. Decent signing.
Yeah, I don’t get why people are whining about this.
Because it's a short term move for a team that isn't gonna be competitive in the short term.

Essentially, the Cardinals are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Sigh....

Please research the "Chapman for Ragans" trade 2 years ago.

Thanks...
You've lost me here. Are you comparing Maton to Aroldis Chapman?

Sticking with the nautical theme: That's a bit like comparing the SS Minnow to the Queen Mary. :wink:
2022 Royals: 65-97
2023 Royals ended up being: 56-106

So, why would the 2023 Royals sign Chapman to a 1 year deal when they wren't expected to be competitive in the short term?
Because they were hoping to trade him for Cole Ragans? :?

The record says you can flip Chapman for a decent prospect. After all, Chapman is/was a HOF caliber closer. But comparing Maton to Aroldis Chapman is, as I said before, like comparing the SS Minnow with the Queen Mary.

We all hope for good things, but We're not getting a decent prospect for a street free agent signed in Mid March who last season was traded for cash and a PTBNL.
Yes, a HOF-caliber closer who one of the worst teams in baseball was able to land for 3.75M/1 year.

So let's stop acting like KC had a prize pig. They made a modest gamble for a pitcher no one wanted at the time, and it paid off.

Cards sign Maton for 1 year/2mil. They could flip him too if he has an upswing 1st half.

Also, Maton helps fill out a relatively thin bullpen from the right side.

You're the one who took umbrage with a team like the Cards signing a pitcher to a one year deal, but the practice is very common and makes sense...
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ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:54 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:46 am
ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 11:35 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:33 am
ecleme22 wrote: 13 Mar 2025 10:05 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:46 am
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 13 Mar 2025 09:37 am
sdaltons wrote: 13 Mar 2025 08:44 am I remember wanting this guy 2-3 years ago. Decent signing.
Yeah, I don’t get why people are whining about this.
Because it's a short term move for a team that isn't gonna be competitive in the short term.

Essentially, the Cardinals are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Sigh....

Please research the "Chapman for Ragans" trade 2 years ago.

Thanks...
You've lost me here. Are you comparing Maton to Aroldis Chapman?

Sticking with the nautical theme: That's a bit like comparing the SS Minnow to the Queen Mary. :wink:
2022 Royals: 65-97
2023 Royals ended up being: 56-106

So, why would the 2023 Royals sign Chapman to a 1 year deal when they wren't expected to be competitive in the short term?
Because they were hoping to trade him for Cole Ragans? :?

The record says you can flip Chapman for a decent prospect. After all, Chapman is/was a HOF caliber closer. But comparing Maton to Aroldis Chapman is, as I said before, like comparing the SS Minnow with the Queen Mary.

We all hope for good things, but We're not getting a decent prospect for a street free agent signed in Mid March who last season was traded for cash and a PTBNL.
Yes, a HOF-caliber closer who one of the worst teams in baseball was able to land for 3.75M/1 year.

So let's stop acting like KC had a prize pig. They made a modest gamble for a pitcher no one wanted at the time, and it paid off.

Cards sign Maton for 1 year/2mil. They could flip him too if he has an upswing 1st half.

Also, Maton helps fill out a relatively thin bullpen from the right side.

You're the one who took umbrage with a team like the Cards signing a pitcher to a one year deal, but the practice is very common and makes sense...
Well, I'm not god, so it's okay to disagree with me about these things.

Who's right? We'll see. :wink:
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