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Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 07:47 am
by OldRed
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:36 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:33 am Question: who on this team is a leader?
Now that’s a great question. Most like to use Pujols as a leader type comparison, a face to the franchise, you might say.

Let me ask you, when you think of the STL Cardinals, what player immediately pops into your head?
On this 2026 team, no one. There is no Chris Carpenter, Molina type player.

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 07:51 am
by OldRed
Years ago, Cardinal Captain Terry Moore was the guy to direct the younger players in when to go home. He was once asked what he did when they didn't want to go home. He said he would get Walker Cooper to tell them.

I always thought it was a great story.

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 07:52 am
by sikeston bulldog2
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:47 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:36 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:33 am Question: who on this team is a leader?
Now that’s a great question. Most like to use Pujols as a leader type comparison, a face to the franchise, you might say.

Let me ask you, when you think of the STL Cardinals, what player immediately pops into your head?
On this 2026 team, no one. There is no Chris Carpenter, Molina type player.
There ya go. You got to the edge. If forced to pick, I’d go Winn or Scott as young emerging leaders. Ironically the kevel of leadership will likely depend on the level of performance.

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 10:11 am
by 12xu
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:33 am Question: who on this team is a leader?

Who is the guy on this team to tell the young players you have had enough to drink, we have a game tomorrow.
Yohel Pozo - 28 years old, if they don't listen to him, he will body slam them into submission!

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 10:23 am
by Mort Gage
https://x.com/JonHeyman/status/2020129568225398958

One year, 4mm for Goldschmidt. With a 110% luxury tax 8.4mm.

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 10:44 am
by 45s
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:33 am Question: who on this team is a leader?

Who is the guy on this team to tell the young players you have had enough to drink, we have a game tomorrow.
Well….

watching this team is best with a lot of alcohol….

can’t be too tough on the players…

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 11:03 am
by ecleme22
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:56 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:54 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:49 am Good enough for the Yankees, but not the Cardinals.
Cards in a rebuild. Yanks not. He was hired as a defensive replacement. Yanks have deeper lineup.
This rebuild is totally garbage. He would have been a great bat coming off the bench, a proven player who would have added leadership. Goldschmidt's return not only bolsters the Yankees' offense but also brings leadership to the clubhouse.
“We couldn’t sign a 38 year old part time 1b. You call that a rebuild????”

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 11:08 am
by 45s
The guy is near the end of his career…

He may have one more chance to win…..and as a New York Yankee

why in the world would he go to Stl?

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 11:32 am
by ramfandan
12xu wrote: 07 Feb 2026 10:11 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:33 am Question: who on this team is a leader?

Who is the guy on this team to tell the young players you have had enough to drink, we have a game tomorrow.
Yohel Pozo - 28 years old, if they don't listen to him, he will body slam them into submission!
The bartender ... He says 'Last call' and win or lose come back tomorrow night guys !

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 11:52 am
by ecleme22
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:33 am Question: who on this team is a leader?

Who is the guy on this team to tell the young players you have had enough to drink, we have a game tomorrow.
If Goldy had signed here, why is he the defacto leader? Because he has grey beard stubble?

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 14:46 pm
by mattmitchl44
Considering how much money Goldschmidt has already made, why would he have even chosen St. Louis at this point in his career for even $6 or $8 million vs. the Yankees and a chance to make the WS for $4 million?

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 14:50 pm
by dugoutrex
mattmitchl44 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 14:46 pm Considering how much money Goldschmidt has already made, why would he have even chosen St. Louis at this point in his career for even $6 or $8 million vs. the Yankees and a chance to make the WS for $4 million?
Goldy seams like a good enough guy but he was most definitely NOT a leader

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 15:22 pm
by RamFan08NY
45s wrote: 07 Feb 2026 11:08 am The guy is near the end of his career…

He may have one more chance to win…..and as a New York Yankee

why in the world would he go to Stl?
Didn't you hear? Every free agent out there is standing in line waiting for Stl to call.

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 16:13 pm
by 45s
RamFan08NY wrote: 07 Feb 2026 15:22 pm
45s wrote: 07 Feb 2026 11:08 am The guy is near the end of his career…

He may have one more chance to win…..and as a New York Yankee

why in the world would he go to Stl?
Didn't you hear? Every free agent out there is standing in line waiting for Stl to call.
Whaaaaaaaatt?

You’re suggesting that every free agent is not sitting by the phone, desperately hoping, praying the cards call?

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 20:36 pm
by Bushiro
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:20 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:18 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:16 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:12 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:09 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 07:07 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:58 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:56 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:54 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:49 am Good enough for the Yankees, but not the Cardinals.
Cards in a rebuild. Yanks not. He was hired as a defensive replacement. Yanks have deeper lineup.
This rebuild is totally garbage. He would have been a great bat coming off the bench, a proven player who would have added leadership. Goldschmidt's return not only bolsters the Yankees' offense but also brings leadership to the clubhouse.
I thought he was the silent type, not a robust leader type.
You don't have to be vocal to be a leader type. You of all people should know that being in the military.
I think he does a great job of leading by example. If that’s the requirement by all means.
Isn't that what leadership is? I always thought so.
Leading by example is indeed a leadership trait. As is enforcing the standard. As is seek responsibility and take responsibility for your actions.

I think there are 12 of them in the military world.
Molina was a perfect example of leadership. He also was a quiet guy in the dugout.
I think Molina was much more vocal. If you want a leadership comparison to goldy, try arenado. Same boat.
Every single thing I've read about Arenado is that he works his rear off...like every player says he's the first one there hitting...taking ground balls etc...they said he eats and sleeps baseball...so he's definitely a lead by example guy ...and not a get in your face type guy

Re: Goldschmidt

Posted: 07 Feb 2026 20:54 pm
by govman
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:58 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:56 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:54 am
OldRed wrote: 07 Feb 2026 06:49 am Good enough for the Yankees, but not the Cardinals.
Cards in a rebuild. Yanks not. He was hired as a defensive replacement. Yanks have deeper lineup.
This rebuild is totally garbage. He would have been a great bat coming off the bench, a proven player who would have added leadership. Goldschmidt's return not only bolsters the Yankees' offense but also brings leadership to the clubhouse.
I thought he was the silent type, not a robust leader type.
but weren't people saying 2 years ago that there was no leadership from PG/NA?