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Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

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zuck698 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:26 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:44 am :roll:

Moron

0.00% chance the Cardinals EVER leave St. Louis
Especially with all the investment around and including the stadium. STL will be home for the duration Rock. Unless, like I mentioned earlier, they get approval for the 'Disney " park in East St. Louis to break ground. Then Bill may pack it in. :lol: :lol:
MLB would NEVER, EVER approve one of their CROWN JEWEL FRANCHISES w/more baseball history, championships and tradition than any team in MLB not named the NY Yankees!

(And St. Louis blew it back in the early 1960's zuck' when Walt Disney himself wanted to turn the river front where the Arch was bring built into his next theme park and August Busch used his muscle to deny him because Walt didn't want beer sold in the proposed park)
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the Cards aren't going anywhere
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rockondlouie wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:36 am
zuck698 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:26 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:44 am :roll:

Moron

0.00% chance the Cardinals EVER leave St. Louis
Especially with all the investment around and including the stadium. STL will be home for the duration Rock. Unless, like I mentioned earlier, they get approval for the 'Disney " park in East St. Louis to break ground. Then Bill may pack it in. :lol: :lol:
MLB would NEVER, EVER approve one of their CROWN JEWEL FRANCHISES w/more baseball history, championships and tradition than any team in MLB not named the NY Yankees!

(And St. Louis blew it back in the early 1960's zuck' when Walt Disney himself wanted to turn the river front where the Arch was bring built into his next theme park and August Busch used his muscle to deny him because Walt didn't want beer sold in the proposed park)
I had heard that this was actually a reality back in the day. I was making more of a reference to a certain poster here who thinks that East St. Louis is currently ripe for that type of project. I just find it entertaining that someone thinks that could be pulled off in this area currently. I won't go into details, but you are smart enough to get my drift Rock. But back to the 60's, just think of what STL might have been? We would have never lost 2 football teams and we would definitely have an NBA team as well. Can you imagine, the growth and viability of the Metro area, if Walt and Gussie could have came to an agreement. For me, it is mind boggling to think of all the changes it would have created.
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Moving the Cards to another city seems unlikely. However, my gut and ownership's actions feels like the team will be sold. And in reality, I care far more about the players than the owners. I have zero loyalty to them. And I do not understand the Donovan trade at all in terms of a rebuild. The other trades made perfect sense if they wish to sell the team.
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Re: Tanking Cardinals to move them?

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zuck698 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:50 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:36 am
zuck698 wrote: 05 Feb 2026 09:26 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 Feb 2026 08:44 am :roll:

Moron

0.00% chance the Cardinals EVER leave St. Louis
Especially with all the investment around and including the stadium. STL will be home for the duration Rock. Unless, like I mentioned earlier, they get approval for the 'Disney " park in East St. Louis to break ground. Then Bill may pack it in. :lol: :lol:
MLB would NEVER, EVER approve one of their CROWN JEWEL FRANCHISES w/more baseball history, championships and tradition than any team in MLB not named the NY Yankees!

(And St. Louis blew it back in the early 1960's zuck' when Walt Disney himself wanted to turn the river front where the Arch was bring built into his next theme park and August Busch used his muscle to deny him because Walt didn't want beer sold in the proposed park)
I had heard that this was actually a reality back in the day. I was making more of a reference to a certain poster here who thinks that East St. Louis is currently ripe for that type of project. I just find it entertaining that someone thinks that could be pulled off in this area currently. I won't go into details, but you are smart enough to get my drift Rock. But back to the 60's, just think of what STL might have been? We would have never lost 2 football teams and we would definitely have an NBA team as well. Can you imagine, the growth and viability of the Metro area, if Walt and Gussie could have came to an agreement. For me, it is mind boggling to think of all the changes it would have created.
Gotcha and yes I understand.

Here's what could've been if ABJr had been told to "shut up":

Walt Disney planned to build a massive, five-story indoor theme park called Riverfront Square on the St. Louis riverfront near the Gateway Arch in the early 1960s. The project, featuring attractions like a haunted house and a riverboat ride, was abandoned in 1965 due to financing disputes and conflicts over selling alcohol. --Disney
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and of course the wild rumor about Illinois erecting a gigantic statue of a man holding a croquet mallet about to hit a huge ball towards the arch................ ::crazya::
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Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 23:46 pm
CCard wrote: 04 Feb 2026 23:32 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 21:15 pm
TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
Made zero sense to keep Donovan.
Yeah, screw the fans. :roll:
You’re not a fan, so you won’t get screwed. I’d practice getting a life instead of worrying about the accomplishments of others. You’re so pathetic.
LOL... :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)
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TNT9516 wrote: 04 Feb 2026 11:32 am How do any of the moves the Cardinals made this fall make any sense? I could believe it on the premise that we were trying to rebuild until we traded away one of our rebuilding pieces. The Donovan trade made no sense whatsoever. You've got a guy that's under 2 years of control that is ian all star and you trade him away when you're wanting to be rebuilding? It appears to me that the management is looking to tank on purpose. Why would they want to do that? It has always been said the Cardinals would not be moved as long as they were selling lots of tickets. And they historically have. But when the ticket sales fall the MLB is not going to be hesitant it to move them. And ticket sales are as low as I can remember in my life. This team is infinitely more valuable to be sold if it can be moved. There are a lot of bigger towns that could use baseball teams. Austin Texas is a million people and they're underrepresented. Nashville / Louisville / Chattanooga area is grossly underrepresented. MLB would love to get teams in these much higher population areas. The best way to do it would be to buy a team that's already established and move it in there. It looks to me like the dewits are tanking the Cardinals in an effort to be able to move them. If ticket sales are low enough the MLB will approve it. St Louis has 280,000 people now. Austin has a million Chattanooga Louisville Nashville area has almost 3 million people. Memphis is a much bigger town. Folks get used to the idea of the Cardinals not being here- it's probably coming. The DeWitts have no ties to the St Louis area at all. Other than a baseball team they own is inconveniently located here. They just came out a couple of weeks ago and professed undying love for the Cardinals. That doesn't mean St louis. That just means the Cardinals. Look at the Cubs - that stadium is always full no matter how good or bad they are. Why would you invest in players and player development if you're going to fill the stadium based on the population of your area regardless of winning or losing. Is much cheaper to fill the stadium in a huge metropolitan area than it is a small one.
lol.
MLB will never ever allow the Cardinals to be moved. It’s ridiculous. It’s a gold mine market.
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