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11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:59 am

ClassicO wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:02 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

+1
Dumb to have him on club when he has so many holes - and Oli's excuse that he won't see the best pitching down there is dumb.

He's been in the minors before.

2026 is a throw away. Let him sink or swim here or cut bait.

No more training wheels.

Hmmm. Did you check how he did when he was in AAA?
.257/.331/.414/.745 in 529 PAs with a whopping 13 HRs and 58 RBI. He had 5 errors in the OF in 132 games. Ugh.
Maybe when he can hit AAA pitching and improve the poor defense, he can earn his way to the bigs. Most hitters see a decent drop off from AAA stays to MLB - so why do you think he's any different?

Bully4you wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:34 am

OldRed wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 12:07 pm He is exactly the kind of player the Cardinals would trade for. A 23-year-old with a world of potential talent. I can't see him being traded.

Dave Parker at the same age:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... da01.shtml

Dave Parker the HOFer?
Doesn't have the electric arm of Dave, nor the plate discipline.
Will never hit like Dave nor play RF like Dave.
Really a silly comparison.
We already had idiots saying he was the next Dave Winfield on this stupid forum 3 or 4 years ago.
The only thing he shares with Dave is the color of his skin.
Nothing else.

Check their stats to age 24.

OldRed wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:49 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:34 am

OldRed wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 12:07 pm He is exactly the kind of player the Cardinals would trade for. A 23-year-old with a world of potential talent. I can't see him being traded.

Dave Parker at the same age:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... da01.shtml

Dave Parker the HOFer?
Doesn't have the electric arm of Dave, nor the plate discipline.
Will never hit like Dave nor play RF like Dave.
Really a silly comparison.
We already had idiots saying he was the next Dave Winfield on this stupid forum 3 or 4 years ago.
The only thing he shares with Dave is the color of his skin.
Nothing else.

Check their stats to age 24.

Maybe Walker should just hit left handed.

ClassicO wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:39 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:59 am

ClassicO wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:02 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

+1
Dumb to have him on club when he has so many holes - and Oli's excuse that he won't see the best pitching down there is dumb.

He's been in the minors before.

2026 is a throw away. Let him sink or swim here or cut bait.

No more training wheels.

Hmmm. Did you check how he did when he was in AAA?
.257/.331/.414/.745 in 529 PAs with a whopping 13 HRs and 58 RBI. He had 5 errors in the OF in 132 games. Ugh.
Maybe when he can hit AAA pitching and improve the poor defense, he can earn his way to the bigs. Most hitters see a decent drop off from AAA stays to MLB - so why do you think he's any different?

Right now we don't even have an OF of any kind.

Burleson will play first. Nootbar had surgery and is likely to be traded. That leaves Scott who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

You have positions to fill and you lose nothing by playing Walker.

Clear the decks for '27 if he fails.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 23:15 pm

Cusecards wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 13:09 pm No reason to deal him now.
Multiple years of team control.
Doesn’t make squat.
Trade value low.
Isn’t blocking anyone.
Option year also a bonus.

Yep. So simple. Clueless CT making anything else from this

I think he might be overthinking??
Gorman doesn’t appear to think at all.
Deer in the headlights look!

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

It’s refreshing and inspiring when so many here type “multiple years of control”….
BDW could have multiple years of control over me if he wishes…..I’ll collect the league minimum(Cheap), and produce very little towards a competitive MLB team…..
Who the heck cares if a team has YEARS of CONTROL over a player who sucks??? What comfort does this give you as a fan? This designation is purely and only a designation for the OWNER. Wish to have, see, want TALENT

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:19 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

JW has had his chance...gets worse.

I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand

Almost a 1,000 ABs and he's proven he sucks. Now he has one available option. Make him earn it

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:19 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

JW has had his chance...gets worse.

I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand

Almost a 1,000 ABs and he's proven he sucks. Now he has one available option. Make him earn it

I understand perfectly. He's been awful.

The organization will do everything they can not to be wrong about their "prospect" and will be given every opportunity to win the job in ST.

What you don't understand is the players you mentioned whoa are actually Ofers aren't any better.

Get it?

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:37 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:19 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

JW has had his chance...gets worse.

I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand

Almost a 1,000 ABs and he's proven he sucks. Now he has one available option. Make him earn it

I understand perfectly. He's been awful.

The organization will do everything they can not to be wrong about their "prospect" and will be given every opportunity to win the job in ST.

What you don't understand is the players you mentioned whoa are actually Ofers aren't any better.

Get it?

You don't know that..


Get it. We know JW sucks

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:38 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:37 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:19 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

JW has had his chance...gets worse.

I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand

Almost a 1,000 ABs and he's proven he sucks. Now he has one available option. Make him earn it

I understand perfectly. He's been awful.

The organization will do everything they can not to be wrong about their "prospect" and will be given every opportunity to win the job in ST.

What you don't understand is the players you mentioned whoa are actually Ofers aren't any better.

Get it?

You don't know that..


Get it. We know JW sucks

Really?

Scott, Davis and Church starting the season inthe OF?

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:42 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:38 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:37 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:19 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

JW has had his chance...gets worse.

I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand

Almost a 1,000 ABs and he's proven he sucks. Now he has one available option. Make him earn it

I understand perfectly. He's been awful.

The organization will do everything they can not to be wrong about their "prospect" and will be given every opportunity to win the job in ST.

What you don't understand is the players you mentioned whoa are actually Ofers aren't any better.

Get it?

You don't know that..


Get it. We know JW sucks

Really?

Scott, Davis and Church starting the season inthe OF?

I gave you a list

"The OF has been garbage for years."

Your own words

Then there's more of your own words...

"The team has nothing to lose doing this."

Dave Parker - how 'bout he hits as good as Harrison Bader first!

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:54 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:42 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:38 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:37 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:19 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑27 Dec 2025 14:43 pm You have to play him.

He may be too far gone and probably is but what existing choices do you have.

There isn't one.

Give him all the AB's in ST you can and stat him day one in RF and leave him there.

Sometimes a player just has to figure it out on his own.

The team has nothing to lose in doing this.

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

JW has had his chance...gets worse.

I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand

Almost a 1,000 ABs and he's proven he sucks. Now he has one available option. Make him earn it

I understand perfectly. He's been awful.

The organization will do everything they can not to be wrong about their "prospect" and will be given every opportunity to win the job in ST.

What you don't understand is the players you mentioned whoa are actually Ofers aren't any better.

Get it?

You don't know that..


Get it. We know JW sucks

Really?

Scott, Davis and Church starting the season inthe OF?

I gave you a list

"The OF has been garbage for years."

Your own words

Then there's more of your own words...

"The team has nothing to lose doing this."

You really are a moron .

Take your emoji and stick it up your (donkey).

My words.

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 13:06 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:54 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:42 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:38 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:37 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:29 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:19 pm

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 12:16 pm

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:32 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 09:25 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 08:57 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2025 07:54 am

No. He goes to the minors and earns his way onto the team.

That's not going to happen.

Who plays the OF?

Ivan, Bumbles, Scott, Noot, Baez, Church, Davis

That's funny.

And besides Burleson who's now clear to play first base and Herrera who's supposed to recapture the catching job which one of those guys besides Noobar (coming off surgery) has done anything at the ML level?

You're as delusional as ozzie.

Lol. What has JW done at the MLB level?!

Gets worse and worse

I'd sure like to see one of the kids get a chance...we've seen the garbage that is JW

But they're not going to "get a chance" before Walker gets his last chance.

The OF has been garbage for years.

JW has had his chance...gets worse.

I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand

Almost a 1,000 ABs and he's proven he sucks. Now he has one available option. Make him earn it

I understand perfectly. He's been awful.

The organization will do everything they can not to be wrong about their "prospect" and will be given every opportunity to win the job in ST.

What you don't understand is the players you mentioned whoa are actually Ofers aren't any better.

Get it?

You don't know that..


Get it. We know JW sucks

Really?

Scott, Davis and Church starting the season inthe OF?

I gave you a list

"The OF has been garbage for years."

Your own words

Then there's more of your own words...

"The team has nothing to lose doing this."

You really are a moron .

Take your emoji and stick it up your (donkey).

My words.

Ah...perfect. I expect nothing less from you.

Congrats in meeting my low expectations of your "thinking"